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Old 09-16-2020, 10:15 AM
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So Last night I heard a loud enough noise to get me out of bed before falling asleep. I went to check on it and it was just a some kids toys that had fallen by the front door.

Brought me to think what if it was real break in. How do you proceed.

1) Stay put in the bed room with wife and kid. Guns loaded and ready for battle while calling 911.
2) Husband goes towards the noise with gun in hand while wife and child hunker down with another gun inside the bedroom?
3) Flee out the back sliding glass door with wife and child?

Curious to hear what is the proper line of defense or attack in these situations?
Old 09-16-2020, 10:18 AM
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1 is the most legally defendable / recommended action...

but it would be hard not to do 2.
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Hide in your room armed to the teeth of at all possible. If they are headed to lil' suzies or johnnies room , time to man up. When all is said and done there should only be one side of the story.
Talk to the police. " I was in fear for my/my families life. I have nothing further to say without my Lawyer present". Also no one else talks ,wife, kids etc.

If someone really does break in, with you at home , they are not there to wish you happy birthday or anything.
Re-read the bold red line several times.
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1 is the safest for your family. I would not leave them unattended to go clearing the house and yard.
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interesting topic. Coincidentally, I recently had a conversation with a buddy about this. He said that he was told by a district attorney in a New England state who has been involved in cases of forced entry/break in, and the determining factor in whether or not to charge the homeowner in cases where a firearm was used was this: did the occupants have a safe egress during the break in and did they use it? something to think about.

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My house is built so that the only way for me to get out using a door is to head down the hallway. I would also have a shotgun w/ OO.
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#1 for sure. I want the family behind me with no chance of friendly fire.. bad guy takes one foot on the bottom step and he will wish he stayed downstairs
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Originally Posted by Jim Beam View Post
interesting topic. Coincidentally, I recently had a conversation with a buddy about this. He said that he was told by a district attorney in a New England state who has been involved in cases of forced entry/break in, and the determining factor in whether or not to charge the homeowner in cases where a firearm was used was this: did the occupants have a safe egress during the break in and did they use it? something to think about.
Ever hear of the castle doctrine?
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# 1 for sure unless you have kids in other bedrooms that you need to go and make sure they are protected . If you have all persons accounted for in one room then the best thing would be to call 911 while waiting patiently for the offender to leave but they cannot come in the room you are safely in then its your turn to defend without mercy . If its night time and some breaks in to your home that is a pretty brazen threat in my opinion . Castle doctrine all the way . As a non trained at clearing a house person I would not want to be searching room to room to clear the house unless i needed to get to another family members room to protect them . In my case it would have to be # 2 as i have kids in other rooms that would need protecting by their father Its would certainly be easier to win the fight if the perp enters your safe space while your waiting pointing your weapon at the door .
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Originally Posted by rainmaker View Post
Ever hear of the castle doctrine?
Some of those northern/western states don't support the castle doctrine.....
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In my house our bedrooms are all upstairs, with an open foyer/balcony type arangement. At the top of the stairs the master is to the right, and kids two bedrooms are to the left. From my bedroom door I am aiming directly towards my 4 year olds room and to a lesser degree my 2 year olds. If they are in their beds, that's not a huge deal, but would rather not take that chance if at all humanly possible. Accordingly, plan is for my wife to stay in the master, and myself take perch at the top of the stairs. No way anyone can get into the foyer without me having a huge advantage on them, if I have time. If that's not an option pan is an open door to our room to draw them that way and make a safe shot possible.
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Castle doctrine.
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My son is grown, so we're empty nester's and don't have the complications of children/family in other bedrooms, which changes the strategy considerably. It's extremely complex in split bedroom homes, and a family plan is absolutely necessary to have a sound strategy. We have an alarm system that would wake the dead if there's any breach of a window/door in the house, so the first hope is that the alarm sounding would scare off the intruder. Given that both my wife and I have set the alarm off accidentally, my first move is to throw my arm over my wife to make sure she's there. Second move is to arm myself and stay in the bedroom, which is off a great room, so our only escape would be to expose ourselves trying to exit the house.

I was speaking to a local police officer at an event, and we were talking guns and such, and the topic did come up. His instructions to his wife is to arm herself, get in a corner in the bedroom with clear sight of the doorway, remain completely silent, and use that doorway as a frame of reference. If a figure appears in that frame of reference, then protect your life. In my case, I don't feel the need to take an offensive posture, because if someone is bold enough to continue with an alarm going off, they're looking for more than a few pawn shop items. I'll let them take the risk and come to me.
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Originally Posted by Onewolf View Post
Some of those northern/western states don't support the castle doctrine.....
was just reading up on this. different stipulations depending on state. Two things: I hope none of us here ever have to deal with this situation, and if it did happen, I'd want to be living in Texas ;-)
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Originally Posted by Pipo6007 View Post
So Last night I heard a loud enough noise to get me out of bed before falling asleep. I went to check on it and it was just a some kids toys that had fallen by the front door.

Brought me to think what if it was real break in. How do you proceed.

1) Stay put in the bed room with wife and kid. Guns loaded and ready for battle while calling 911.
2) Husband goes towards the noise with gun in hand while wife and child hunker down with another gun inside the bedroom?
3) Flee out the back sliding glass door with wife and child?

Curious to hear what is the proper line of defense or attack in these situations?
Prepare ahead of time. Now that this has happened where will you go next time. Rehearse with your family what you would do.

Read up on your states local self defense laws and consider taking a concealed carry course, a good one local to you, not just online. Keep your gun where you can easily get to it but safe from your kid when you are not around. Know how to shoot it. A firearm is really loud in an enclosed space and really bright in the dark which will blind you and deafen you temporarily.

Most defensible thing really depends on how the events unfold. If you know someone is in your home, call 911 first. Gather wife and kid and hunker down in a safe room with a gun and good line of sight on the only entrance door.

If you have to shoot an intruder the police will ask what happened. Keep it very brief if you say much at all. Maybe something like this person broke into my home and I felt my life and my family were at risk of being killed. Tell the police you will make a full statement but you should allow yourself two sleep cycles to before you make the statement. Adrenalin at the time of the event may make you say things that you may regret later or are incongruent with your story after you've had time to process what happened. Everyone wants to talk their way out of trouble with the police. They are not a judge or jury. They are just there to gather evidence and they are not necessarily for or against you. When the cops show up, holster your weapon and identify yourself, they don't know who the good guy or bad guy is when they arrive.

My understanding is that when a police officer shoots someone the police union advises them not to make a statement until they have had two sleep cycles. You may remember things more clearly after rest including small details that could potentially help you. If you have cameras in or around your home they may have evidence that may help you but don't lie because they will show that too.

In any shooting be prepared for the fact that you may be arrested or taken to the police station for questioning even if you are within your rights and later released. Your gun may be taken away as evidence. Don't panic and say too much...refer back to making my advice on making a statement...dont for 2 sleep cycles.

Consider who you would call for assistance...either concealed carrier insurance if you have it or an attorney you trust. I like CCW safe.

Be prepared for the fact that even if you are not charged with a crime, the perps family may sue you in civil court and you will need a lawyer for that. Don't talk about what happened or brag to the local news. You may be opening yourself up for a lawsuit.

I'm not a lawyer. I have no experience in the above. My advice may be worthless or downright dangerous. Use any of it at your own risk.

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Shotgun pointed at the door. Let them step inside the castle
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If you do #1 and have your gun out and the cops show up, you'll probably be shot, and nothing will happen to the cop.

This guy didn't even call them, the cop was at the wrong house, (then lied about what happened) and he was never charged for shooting the homeowner.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...ideo-came-out/

https://abcnews4.com/news/local/offi...through-window
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Originally Posted by Onewolf View Post
Some of those northern/western states don't support the castle doctrine.....
Yup! It amazes me that someone can enter a house and the homeowners essentially have an obligation to leave...
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1. Don’t live in Louisville.

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