First AR-15 (budget)
#41
Senior Member

I have the Smith and Wesson, I think it’s a decent quality gun, but I’m not an AR enthusiast, fine shotguns are a different story.
Im also taking notes from this thread, may order the parts and try to build a little higher end gun in the near future.
Not to hikack, but anyone got a good lead on bull 5.56 brass rounds?
Also, to hijack further, who’s gone through setting up a trust for a sbr and suppressor?
Im also taking notes from this thread, may order the parts and try to build a little higher end gun in the near future.
Not to hikack, but anyone got a good lead on bull 5.56 brass rounds?
Also, to hijack further, who’s gone through setting up a trust for a sbr and suppressor?
#42
Senior Member

The S&W MP15 is a solid rifle that is basic military style. No frilly extras to break or cause problems with later upgrades. Trust me on this one, make sure whatever you get, it has a removable carry handle. Thank me later. Also check out the Springfield Saint lineup. Solid AR's and if you catch them right, they can come in under your budget.
#43
Senior Member

There's a channel on YouTube, they do AR melt downs. Basically put a full auto lower on whatever production upper and do mag dumps til the upper finally fails. They had a recent with the S&W, they were rather impressed by how long it lasted. The handguards were melting but it kept going
#44
Senior Member


I have the Smith and Wesson, I think it’s a decent quality gun, but I’m not an AR enthusiast, fine shotguns are a different story.
Im also taking notes from this thread, may order the parts and try to build a little higher end gun in the near future.
Not to hikack, but anyone got a good lead on bull 5.56 brass rounds?
Also, to hijack further, who’s gone through setting up a trust for a sbr and suppressor?
Im also taking notes from this thread, may order the parts and try to build a little higher end gun in the near future.
Not to hikack, but anyone got a good lead on bull 5.56 brass rounds?
Also, to hijack further, who’s gone through setting up a trust for a sbr and suppressor?
Just build a pistol and non of that stuff applies. I have 3 AR pistols, they my favorites at the range and you can shoulder them...
#45
Senior Member

I would never go through the SBR process unless I absolutely had to....the 9 months wait then all the rules. Getting permission to cross state lines and many others.
Just build a pistol and non of that stuff applies. I have 3 AR pistols, they my favorites at the range and you can shoulder them...
Just build a pistol and non of that stuff applies. I have 3 AR pistols, they my favorites at the range and you can shoulder them...
But other than the cool factor, I agree with you 100%. With the technology of modern braces, there's really no reason to SBR anything other than for the cool factor.
#46
Admirals Club 


I would never go through the SBR process unless I absolutely had to....the 9 months wait then all the rules. Getting permission to cross state lines and many others.
Just build a pistol and non of that stuff applies. I have 3 AR pistols, they my favorites at the range and you can shoulder them...
Just build a pistol and non of that stuff applies. I have 3 AR pistols, they my favorites at the range and you can shoulder them...
#47
Senior Member

The NFA rules are ridiculously stupid and they need to go bye bye. No reason any of this shit should be regulated the way it is. And also these rules change all of the time when some idiot writes a letter to the ATF for clarification and every time they change their minds on the rules. So just be careful with whatever you do.
#48
Admirals Club 


technically it's not a pistol anymore but an AOW (Any Other Weapon). You can put a vertical grip if you meet certain overall length requirements (greater than 26") and as long as you don't conceal it.
The NFA rules are ridiculously stupid and they need to go bye bye. No reason any of this shit should be regulated the way it is.
The NFA rules are ridiculously stupid and they need to go bye bye. No reason any of this shit should be regulated the way it is.
#49
Senior Member

* I'm not an attorney. But I pay very close attention to the rules and I think I have a better understanding than most.
#50
Senior Member

I would never go through the SBR process unless I absolutely had to....the 9 months wait then all the rules. Getting permission to cross state lines and many others.
Just build a pistol and non of that stuff applies. I have 3 AR pistols, they my favorites at the range and you can shoulder them...
Just build a pistol and non of that stuff applies. I have 3 AR pistols, they my favorites at the range and you can shoulder them...
With NFA, you must be very careful with how you tread. If you run across the wrong FED, you will be defending yourself in court and I know several people who have went that route. It usually ends up in a federal prison.
Just like with an SKS rifle. Anytime that the ATF tech branch gets an SKS to test, the owner will become a felon. They know how to make them fire more than one round with the pull of a trigger.
#51
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#52
Senior Member

If you put anything on the buffer tube that hakes it able to be shouldered, then you have made an SBR and it is an illegal NFA firearm. They do make some pistol grips that have the same effect but it is dancing on a very gray area.
With NFA, you must be very careful with how you tread. If you run across the wrong FED, you will be defending yourself in court and I know several people who have went that route. It usually ends up in a federal prison.
Just like with an SKS rifle. Anytime that the ATF tech branch gets an SKS to test, the owner will become a felon. They know how to make them fire more than one round with the pull of a trigger.
With NFA, you must be very careful with how you tread. If you run across the wrong FED, you will be defending yourself in court and I know several people who have went that route. It usually ends up in a federal prison.
Just like with an SKS rifle. Anytime that the ATF tech branch gets an SKS to test, the owner will become a felon. They know how to make them fire more than one round with the pull of a trigger.
#53
Senior Member


If you put anything on the buffer tube that hakes it able to be shouldered, then you have made an SBR and it is an illegal NFA firearm. They do make some pistol grips that have the same effect but it is dancing on a very gray area.
With NFA, you must be very careful with how you tread. If you run across the wrong FED, you will be defending yourself in court and I know several people who have went that route. It usually ends up in a federal prison.
Just like with an SKS rifle. Anytime that the ATF tech branch gets an SKS to test, the owner will become a felon. They know how to make them fire more than one round with the pull of a trigger.
With NFA, you must be very careful with how you tread. If you run across the wrong FED, you will be defending yourself in court and I know several people who have went that route. It usually ends up in a federal prison.
Just like with an SKS rifle. Anytime that the ATF tech branch gets an SKS to test, the owner will become a felon. They know how to make them fire more than one round with the pull of a trigger.
#54
Member

Rock River Arms builds a good gun. I’ve had mine for years. Round count is between 8k to 10k. I replaced all the springs once just for good measure.
I’ve used it for 3 gun matches practice/training and hunting. I’ve killed more south Texas deer hogs and vermin with 556/223 than any other cartridge. I do use black hills 62 grain Barnes hollow points while hunting.
I’ve used it for 3 gun matches practice/training and hunting. I’ve killed more south Texas deer hogs and vermin with 556/223 than any other cartridge. I do use black hills 62 grain Barnes hollow points while hunting.
#55
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#56
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