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Old 07-16-2020, 03:33 PM
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Getting ready to build a new home and PoE Lighting has come up, but can't seem to find a lot of info about residential use. Looks promising, but I don't want to be a guinea pig.

Anyone have it installed and can share experience?
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Cool features..yes. Applicability in residential setting, not worth it IMO.

Gearing up myself to build a new custom home , unless Iím missing something I donít see the benefit.

my cost per sq ft to build is already through the roof, I canít stomach a single other upgrade. My money is going towards a walk in safe and 4 car garage. Networked Lighting, isnít very high on my list


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We have it in a new commercial building. All light switches send data to the computer and the computer controls all lighting. Infinitely adjustable. Want the bottom button on the switch to turn the lights on? Turn them off? 20% brightness? How about 20% brightness at night but 100% brightness during the day? How about that button turns on the lights in the main entrance, one in the lobby, three behind the reception desk, and every 4th light in the long corridor to the other side of the building, except on the weekend when it turns on the lights in the boiler room so you can walk around to the back of the building after turning off the burglar alarm and enter the boiler room. Or you can press the bottom button twice and get some completely different scenario to happen.

The down side is that it's as complicated as it seems. You need to plug in a laptop with proprietary software to make any changes. It's interesting for commercial buildings but I'm not sure it's even worth it there. I definitely wouldn't want the hassle in a house. During the install, we were having 6 button control stations installed. We quickly realized that none of the building's users could remember what all the buttons did. We switched a few out for 4 button controls - on, off, hold to control dim up or down. And most just got two button controls - on/off and dim. The system can do way more than we actually want. If we were to do it again, I think we would just go with conventional lighting.
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If you are building a new house. Why not have your EC pull cat 6 for all your fixture and out let drops and label them and leave them coiled up in the attic. Would be a great plan not have to worry about pulling wire in the future.
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Originally Posted by r.waddill View Post
If you are building a new house. Why not have your EC pull cat 6 for all your fixture and out let drops and label them and leave them coiled up in the attic. Would be a great plan not have to worry about pulling wire in the future.
This seems like the best option, thanks for the input.
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Originally Posted by r.waddill View Post
If you are building a new house. Why not have your EC pull cat 6 for all your fixture and out let drops and label them and leave them coiled up in the attic. Would be a great plan not have to worry about pulling wire in the future.
Except it will all be wireless. Waste money imo, what is it 50 or 100 a drop to pull to a box l?
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My buddy has it and itís an absolute nightmare his server crashed and he can not turn on the damn lights, he told me if he builds another house heís going to have all his lights with pull strings LOL
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Originally Posted by r.waddill View Post
If you are building a new house. Why not have your EC pull cat 6 for all your fixture and out let drops and label them and leave them coiled up in the attic. Would be a great plan not have to worry about pulling wire in the future.
Man, I can't agree more with this post. Pull Cat 6 to every room in the house, and terminate all of it down to a single area (i.e. basement, etc.). Have two dedicated 20a circuits wired to that location. PoE power consumption is only going to increase in the future, so get the dedicated power there now. Ensure that a cable TV drop is wired to that location as well as a 4-wire phone drop there. It cost pennies to do it at the time of construction (compared to post-construction). This way your house is ready for wifi anywhere.
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Originally Posted by ericinmich View Post
Except it will all be wireless. Waste money imo, what is it 50 or 100 a drop to pull to a box l?
50 to 100 a drop for just pulling an extra wire. Let me know where this is would like to get at that business. There should little or no extra cost except for material. Because you have to pull wire back anyway.
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My buddy has it and itís an absolute nightmare his server crashed and he can not turn on the damn lights, he told me if he builds another house heís going to have all his lights with pull strings LOL
^^^^this^^^^

PoE for lighting is a poorly conceived fad. Kinda like push button light switches back in the 1940's/50's. Has a lot of wow factor but ask yourself what you will do in 3 years when the manufacturer of the PoE switch they are plugged into decalres the equipment EOL and unsupported and it quits working.

Add to that the PoE equipment typically is not very efficient, requires space and power of its own, and can be very expensive and software compatibility will forever be changing.

Some things you just need to work in their most simple form. Lights and receptacles are some of those things. I'm all about dropping to 14AWG for lighting circuits no that we have more efficient LED lights and I am even a big proponent of wirelessly controlled lights and fixtures, but I would never omit the simple standard wiring for basic lighting plan. If you want to add special effects lighting or daylighting that is PoE, great, just have a backup for when it quits or is end of life and no longer manufactured.

Figure just about anything with a PCB these days has a 3-5 year lifespan. After that, they start to flake out or they become incompatible with something else in the system.

Run some cat6 with PoE to key locations for wireless access points and I think it will serve you much better.
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