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Old 06-18-2020, 06:33 AM
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The expert data has been around for a long time about all the health dangers of being fat. Now more than ever.
It's not too late to start losing the weight.
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Is this a fatty call-out thread?
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It's astonishing to me that with all the very well known risks, obesity could pass smoking as a health threat. But somehow we know embrace and celebrate this very serious, self inflicted health condition. The American lifestyle makes it very difficult to be a healthy weight. Between working long hours which makes it difficult to exercise with consistency, or eat right and convenience over quality for food, it's hard. Add to that, our quality of our food supply is just crap. Healthy food is very expensive, if it is even available in most areas.
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Originally Posted by Bfish View Post
The expert data has been around for a long time about all the health dangers of being fat. Now more than ever.
It's not too late to start losing the weight.

You are wrong. There is a hashtag that says you can be healthy at any size.
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Originally Posted by Bfish View Post
The expert data has been around for a long time about all the health dangers of being fat. Now more than ever.
It's not too late to start losing the weight.
If people won't stop smoking why do you think this will make them lose weight?
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#fatlivesmatter
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According to the chart I'm supposed to be 177 lbs...I was that in the 8th grade...I wrestled at 180...I'm 6'2" and 235...could I lose a few yes...muscle ways more than fat...they dont take that into account...
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Originally Posted by Lprizman View Post
According to the chart I'm supposed to be 177 lbs...I was that in the 8th grade...I wrestled at 180...I'm 6'2" and 235...could I lose a few yes...muscle ways more than fat...they dont take that into account...
The height/weight charts arent respective of body types or conditioning and it took me a lifetime to understand it is about a healthy amount of body mass for your ticker and other systems to maintain, i.e. a marathoner will always be "healthier", or at least considered so than a body builder.
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Originally Posted by Lprizman View Post
.muscle ways more than fat...they dont take that into account...
Last time I checked a pound is a pound, whether its muscle or fat. Muscle is denser than fat, therefore it occupies less volume of your body.
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I had major surgery 2 weeks ago. Quit drinking 2 days prior, and still on wagon (no desire or craving to start yet). However, I had a major sweets craving last Monday. Ate a whole cherry pie and half a pecan pie in one day. Could be my body was craving the missing beer calories. Easy to not drink when I am just sitting around convalescing. I usually start drinking when I am working on a project, yard work, fishing, boating, camping or something. No desire to drink and watch TV.
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Everyone knows weight loss and obesity studies are paid for by the Big Fitness and Healthfood lobbyists. It's all a hoax.
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Originally Posted by HTJ View Post
The height/weight charts arent respective of body types or conditioning and it took me a lifetime to understand it is about a healthy amount of body mass for your ticker and other systems to maintain, i.e. a marathoner will always be "healthier", or at least considered so than a body builder.
Jim Fix would disagree....
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Originally Posted by Coco Crazy View Post
Last time I checked a pound is a pound, whether its muscle or fat. Muscle is denser than fat, therefore it occupies less volume of your body.
good point....
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Originally Posted by HTJ View Post
The height/weight charts arent respective of body types or conditioning and it took me a lifetime to understand it is about a healthy amount of body mass for your ticker and other systems to maintain, i.e. a marathoner will always be "healthier", or at least considered so than a body builder.
So what your are claiming to say is that a person with a very large frame and 10% body fat who is 30 lbs over the "charts" ideal weight is much less healthy than a person with a very small frame and 25% body fat that is spot on the chart's weight - if so, I am saying BS.
And, as for your "marathoner" example, most of them are not very healthy and lead shorter than average length lives.
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I fancy a woman with a little meat on her bones.
Something to grab ahold of, if you catch my meaning.
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So what your are claiming to say is that a person with a very large frame and 10% body fat who is 30 lbs over the "charts" ideal weight is much less healthy than a person with a very small frame and 25% body fat that is spot on the chart's weight - if so, I am saying BS.
And, as for your "marathoner" example, most of them are not very healthy and lead shorter than average length lives.
No but I certainly see where it could be interpeted that way...and 25% BF is not going to get you on any chart that I am aware of.

A better example might be a moderate exercising and eats healthy sort with 12% body fat vs a gym rat of 5% but weighs 10/20/30 lbs more. The gym rat's systems are tasked more, period.

That whole moderation thing will always (rightfully so) rear it's head in these conversations. At 17 -18 I was 175 - 180 and maybe a hair more muscular than now (I'm 55) but of course ate too much like any youngster. I hang pretty tight at 163ish these days and pretty selective on nutrition.
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Originally Posted by LI32 View Post
So what your are claiming to say is that a person with a very large frame and 10% body fat who is 30 lbs over the "charts" ideal weight is much less healthy than a person with a very small frame and 25% body fat that is spot on the chart's weight - if so, I am saying BS.
And, as for your "marathoner" example, most of them are not very healthy and lead shorter than average length lives.
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No but I certainly see where it could be interpeted that way...and 25% BF is not going to get you on any chart that I am aware of.

A better example might be a moderate exercising and eats healthy sort with 12% body fat vs a gym rat of 5% but weighs 10/20/30 lbs more. The gym rat's systems are tasked more, period.

That whole moderation thing will always (rightfully so) rear it's head in these conversations. At 17 -18 I was 175 - 180 and maybe a hair more muscular than now (I'm 55) but of course ate too much like any youngster. I hang pretty tight at 163ish these days and pretty selective on nutrition.
You guys know who is obese and who is not. The BMI charts have been pretty much thrown out for years at this point.
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Folks, the actual numbers are a bit gray and we should not argue that...we, as a country are EXTREMELY obese, period....we all blame the health care system but we are the ones breaking it..Our obesity epidemic is MUCH worse than the smoking ever tried to be...

Yes, it is hard...be accountable.

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I used to be judgmental toward overweight people. I have since learned how badly the US government misled it people when it comes to food recommendations. The standard american diet consisting of a large amount of grains will never work for most people.

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