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Old 12-19-2006, 08:23 PM
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Left my job of 13 years to move to a small company this time last year. Small company did not work out and my last day will be 12/31.

I have two offers I am very interested in.

The first one is a sales positions with a giant transportation company. Right up my alley and i can slide into it easily, know the accounts and verticle market contacts. Great benefits and the potential to make a good amount of dough. A moderate amount of travel including overseas travel.

The second one is with a smaller but very stable company that has alot to offer, similar pay and benny's. Starting from scratch with the whole northeast open to me. I have some contacts but not enough to give me a great jmp start. My potential boss knows and understands this and have been given the assurances in writing that I will have the time to build the territory. He stated he wants me on board. Commission would potentially be smaller due to smaller sales numbers. A small amount of travel.

I have two young kids and like my free time.

I know no one can make the decison but me but maybe THT has some insight
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Old 12-19-2006, 08:46 PM
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I like the prospects of an small startup. You can set the market and work it from the ground up, very exciting! I have worked for a very large pharmaceutical company for 10 years and a large corporation is nice, bennys and salary but my efforts were never seen or felt. I never had that pride in a good days work! I am in IT. I was layed off in Feb '05 and have been working as a contractor for smaller companies. Now when I do something I can see the results and come home to my family a happier person. Wife and a 3 year old son like me better comming home feeling better. I guess it all depends on what YOU will be happier with, money is nice but self satisfaction is all the world to me. Big companies do make me a drone. I never would have found that out until I was layed off. I was a company man, so I thought, until I looked at the grass on the other side.

You decide and please make sure you are happy with the decision......Smaller, stale company and build it like you would want!
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Old 12-19-2006, 08:56 PM
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If you consider yourself a "go getter" and like to challenge the unknown while learning something new ,go for the smaller company as they'll appreciate you more at the home office. But most of all do what is best for a happy family . Kids grow up real fast.....too fast
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Old 12-19-2006, 09:00 PM
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Can't comment on the large versus small company issue as I have only worked in very small businesses.

I CAN comment on the family issue. Your kids will not be young forever, nor will you. I recently made a work/business decision that allows me to spend much more time at home. I have no overnight travel and can work from home whenever I want. We have one daughter, 14 years old, and I want to spend as much time as I can with her. This was one of the best decisions I ever made.

If the pay is decent, bennies are good and the Company is stable, I would side with the small Company for the travel issue. This is what is important to me. You have to decide what is important to you.

Good luck with the decision.
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Old 12-20-2006, 01:00 AM
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You know what, I've worked two full time jobs working my tail off to support four house holds, I have gratification but I am not wealthy. In saying that, my house is paid for yet I have debt, so what, I'm a happy man..........isn't that what it's all about? Sure it would be nice to have money to blow like many here on the forum, but the Misses and I do alright......I always buy the best of the best.

If the smaller of the two job offers pays the bills I'd go for being at home. IMO it has nothing to do with how strong your marriage is with the Admiral, it has everything to do with you and the kids.......some things money just CAN NOT buy!

If I were to go with the smaller employer, before I committed, I'd hash out an aggressive incentive plan for myself and have it put in writing. IMO, there is nothing worse then working my but off for empty promises. Personally, I think you could probably end up making more money at the smaller place if you work things out properly in the first place!

Hey are you the guy that had problems with the car while signing an employment deal last year?

edit:.........I don't know about you, but I know what I'm worth; I'm worth a lot!!!!! I know I can bring top shelf to the table and then some more........I'd hit them hard on a deal and I wouldn't back down! I wouldn't back down because I know what I'm worth!!!!!!!! You are all of that aren't yah!
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Old 12-20-2006, 06:36 AM
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You go with the one your heart and your gut tells you to because that's the right thing to do.

Can't go wrong followin' your heart and your gut.

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Old 12-20-2006, 08:27 AM
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You answered your own question--the smaller company with less travel. You have forever to chase a big time position, but your children will only need so many rides to baseball practice. Don't pass up the opportunity to spend more time with your kids.
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Old 12-20-2006, 08:31 AM
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Having gone thru the employment cycle, from retrospect I can tell you it is more important to have a family life than a work life. Big corporate America could care less about you..they will TELL you they care, and work your butt off. All of a sudden, you're old, kids have disappeared, and you find yourself dumped and replaced by another young go-getter full of piss and vinegar. Me, I've been self employed basically all my life. My wife has worked for companies like SYSCO and Home Depot. Homeys was the worst, no moral conscience.

I've also lived where I want to. No job pays enough to be forced to live in Newark or Miami.

Get your priorities in order and choose carefully.
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Old 12-21-2006, 09:50 PM
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I've only worked for a large company once in my life and really did not like it. To them your only a number in the pay check book. With a smaller company you get to be more personable with the people you work with and for. If I was you I'd take the smaller company first. Then you can work the market like you would like.
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Old 12-21-2006, 10:54 PM
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Only you can calculate the risk-return-responsibility(family) equation. Your questions suggest you know the variables......plug in the values and the answer will be obvious. Good luck on your next adventure.
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Old 12-22-2006, 12:01 PM
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It's hard to help you with your decision without quantifying the difference between "moderate" and "small" amount of travel. Is moderate travel excessive as far as your family goals? From reading your descriptions of the 2 jobs, it seemed to me the first job with the larger company suited your current skillset better, plus you admit you'll make more money. Family time is valuable, but it's also your responsibility to provide that family a lifestyle....
Good luck! It's a decision only you can make.
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Old 12-23-2006, 01:44 PM
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It's hard to help you with your decision without quantifying the difference between "moderate" and "small" amount of travel. Is moderate travel excessive as far as your family goals? From reading your descriptions of the 2 jobs, it seemed to me the first job with the larger company suited your current skillset better, plus you admit you'll make more money. Family time is valuable, but it's also your responsibility to provide that family a lifestyle....
Good luck! It's a decision only you can make.
Coast - I agree which is why I will be accepting the job at the larger of the two companies. The drama is not over yet, I still need the official offer letter which spells out the details. Should have it Tuesday or Wed. If not I will be starting at the smaller company in January.

Good opportunities either way, which I am thankful for.

Thanks for everyones input and Merry Christmas to all.

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Old 12-23-2006, 04:35 PM
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I would tend to lean toward the smaller company as long as they are willing to put some of your desires in writing. The other, and IMO more serious aspect is to look at what the company structure is, if they already have a fairly complete group that you can tell they will be loyal to no mater what, and you are going to be the newcomer, I would be very cautious. I ran into this in my last job, the newer people that could actually keep the business up & running were constantly ignored in favor for the same old crew who had been there for years & knew absolutely nothing about the decisions at hand in many cases. Granted loyalty & experience is a good thing for a business owner to have, but they can't be over loyal to the point of pentalizing themselves or be blindly loyal to certain individuals over others.

On the other hand, I currently work for a very large company, and couldn't be happier. This is simply due to the way the company is structured. We have a complete lack of top heavy management. I am in constant contact with three out of the four people who are above me in position. This sort of communication IMO is key in big business.
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A quick .02:

Go with the one that is willing to give you an equity position.

If neither one will, then start your own company.


Owning a piece of the company keeps you focused and motivated, and gives you a say. It also means that when you get shown the door because the company has been sold, you have something in hand; and it could be a very substantial amount.

If you have an equity position and the company goes belly up, you are none the worse for wear than if you did not have a piece of the action.


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