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Old 05-12-2020, 08:31 PM
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Looking to purchase a property in Sunrise, FL, house built in 1985, and owner has disclosed that property has polybutylene plumbing, and they have had leaks in a few places in the house.

Should this be "no go" or if house is priced right, go for it with the mindset that it's probably a good idea to replace pressure plumbing? It's single story 4/2 house. Baths have been remodeled, so it's possible some has been replaced.

Anyone with any experience dealing with this?
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Plan on replacing all, "IF' insurance even writes it!
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My house in Davie has the same - we have been replacing some of it as we renovate... If you do the exposed sections (bathrooms,kitchen, etc) insurance may not even see it ..
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It's absolute garbage. Run from it as fast as you can. My parents had it in their house, it destroyed a kitchen cabinet and floor and bathroom shower wall along with the wall in the adjacent room. It leaks if you look at it wrong and it's not easy to fix because adapting to copper takes special order fittings and tons of luck. It's a deal breaker. Don't do it.

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Lower offer and hire plumber to redo pipes before you move in. Should only take a day or 2. No big deal.
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Originally Posted by 79Bertram View Post
Lower offer and hire plumber to redo pipes before you move in. Should only take a day or 2. No big deal.
^^^This

Never ran across a house with this crap in it but after a brief read have it completely removed before you move in and adjust offer price accordingly.
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No way will you get a loan with poly in it....companies specialize in replacement....
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Originally Posted by slickster View Post
No way will you get a loan with poly in it....companies specialize in replacement....
That's not true. The entire neighborhood across from my office has that plumbing and those homes are bought and sold all of the time. As far as insurance if the house does not have a history of water claims you should be able to find a company to write a policy. You can also ask your agent to run a clue report and they can tell you if it has a history of water claims. As for buying. I'd get an estimate for replacing and make an offer based of that.
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Mortgage/insurance companies require, in Florida, inspections, ANY inspector should be able to tell whether there is poly pipe, it's a deal breaker for lender
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Thanks folks!

My plan as of now, it everything works out, is to plan on replacing all plumbing before moving in.

Triplenet, can you recommend a plumber in the area, I'd like to get a quote.

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That's not true. The entire neighborhood across from my office has that plumbing and those homes are bought and sold all of the time. As far as insurance if the house does not have a history of water claims you should be able to find a company to write a policy. You can also ask your agent to run a clue report and they can tell you if it has a history of water claims. As for buying. I'd get an estimate for replacing and make an offer based of that.
I believe they made a claim this year, and it was denied. I contacted an insurance agent last night.

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Originally Posted by 79Bertram View Post
Lower offer and hire plumber to redo pipes before you move in. Should only take a day or 2. No big deal.
we had it when we moved in. 5k and change and now we have all new pipes. 3.5 bath. 3200 sq ft. Buy the house if you want it and get it replaced.
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What's the recommended replacement, PEX or Cooper? I've read where PEX is banned in a few places due to studies that shows it can be damaged by chlorine in the water.
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Originally Posted by mwgoldman View Post
we had it when we moved in. 5k and change and now we have all new pipes. 3.5 bath. 3200 sq ft. Buy the house if you want it and get it replaced.
$5k is not too bad. This house only has 2 bads, single story.

Did you replace with PEX or Cooper?
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I sell houses with it periodically, no big deal. Some buyers my be concerned, most are not. As I understand it, if it's still there, it's probably ok...if it were going to have problems, it would have already had them. (I'm no plumber, only what I've been told). When evaluate a house for purchasing, if it has it, I discount slightly. When pricing to sell I price as if it doesn't have it. Usually works out ok. I'm in GA, YMMV.
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I write through 15 insurance companies and its a no-go for most of the insurance companies unless you pay a higher premium for a Non Standard company.


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I had it in my last house, I don't remember State Farm caring much about it. The plumbing never gave me a hard time but it was always in the back of my mind.
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5200 fixes all plumbing leaks. Ask me how I know.
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Find a plumber that specializes in poly replacement. I sold a house that had it and included replacement in the deal. The plumber I worked with did a great job as they were very experienced in replacements. They also worked with drywall guy who made all the repairs and even matched paint.
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Add me to the no list. I would not buy a house with poly unless the price was reduced to cover the replacement.
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Originally Posted by slickster View Post
Mortgage/insurance companies require, in Florida, inspections, ANY inspector should be able to tell whether there is poly pipe, it's a deal breaker for lender
This is not true. You can get a mortgage on a house with polybutylene plumbing in Florida.

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