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Old 04-20-2020, 11:15 AM
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Default “The Last Dance” on ESPN-Who Watched?

I didn’t think it was something that I would watch, but turned it on last night and watched the first two series. I thought it was well done and found out things about the Chicago Bulls that I never knew. MJ was a joy to watch even if you weren’t a Bulls fan.

One part that I found interesting about him when he was a rookie with the Bulls and he went looking for his teammates in the hotel room and this is his story."I had one event, preseason, I think we were in Peoria," Jordan recalled. "It was in a hotel, so I'm trying to find my teammates. So I start knocking on doors. I get to this one door, and I knock on the door, and I can hear someone says, 'shh, someone's outside.' And then you hear this deep voice, someone says, 'who is it?' I said 'MJ.'

"... So they open up the door. I walk in, and practically the whole team was in there. And it was like, things I've never seen in my life as a young kid. You got your lines [of cocaine] over here, you got your weed smokers over here, you got your women over here. So the first thing I said, 'Look man, I'm out.' Because all I could think about was if they come and raid this place, right about now, I'm just as guilty as everybody else that's in this room. And from that point on, I was more or less on my own."

What did you think of the last dance
Old 04-20-2020, 11:21 AM
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Way to keep your team's secrets MJ! Not a cool thing to bring up all these years later.
Old 04-20-2020, 11:29 AM
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Sounds like MJ could have used some of those reasoning skills to be a better person, also. He's definitely the best basketball player of all time and we all have our demons, but..


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...with-class-why
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Originally Posted by smith202073 View Post
Sounds like MJ could have used some of those reasoning skills to be a better person, also. He's definitely the best basketball player of all time and we all have our demons, but..


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...with-class-why
He is nowhere near the best basketball player of all times, he was in the league seven years before he ever made it to a championship game and could not have made it without Phil Jackson, Magic Johnson lost his Coach and starting Center is Rookie season and still won the Championship.
In '91 at age 32 and suffering from the HIV virus Magic Johnson took himself and a collection of no-bodies and misfits to the NBA finals.
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Originally Posted by Reel 007 View Post
He is nowhere near the best basketball player of all times, he was in the league seven years before he ever made it to a championship game and could not have made it without Phil Jackson, Magic Johnson lost his Coach and starting Center is Rookie season and still won the Championship.
In '91 at age 32 and suffering from the HIV virus Magic Johnson took himself and a collection of no-bodies and misfits to the NBA finals.
See, I don't think Jordan's supporting casts would be near as great as they were without Jordan. I respect your view though. At least you didn't say Lebron or Kobe. :/

(They say Michael's brother, Larry, was even better)
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Originally Posted by Reel 007 View Post
He is nowhere near the best basketball player of all times, he was in the league seven years before he ever made it to a championship game and could not have made it without Phil Jackson, Magic Johnson lost his Coach and starting Center is Rookie season and still won the Championship.
In '91 at age 32 and suffering from the HIV virus Magic Johnson took himself and a collection of no-bodies and misfits to the NBA finals.
Michael won 6 championships and 6 finals mvp awards, hard to top that. Magic had plentry of talent around him throughout his career and a stable environment, he is also on record saying he would’ve stayed at MSU another year before playing for the Chicago Bulls.
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Michael won 6 championships and 6 finals mvp awards, hard to top that. Magic had plentry of talent around him throughout his career and a stable environment, he is also on record saying he would’ve stayed at MSU another year before playing for the Chicago Bulls.
In a much more competitive environment Magic Johnson when to the NBA finals nine times in eleven seasons, winning five, Magic won a NBA championship with Paul Westhead as his Coach and made the finals in '91 with Mike Dunlevy as the head Coach, Jordan barely made the play-offs before Phil Jackson.
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Originally Posted by smith202073 View Post
Sounds like MJ could have used some of those reasoning skills to be a better person, also. He's definitely the best basketball player of all time and we all have our demons, but..


https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...with-class-why
That article was written in 2010 and was talking about LBJ's "greatness". Ha! LBJ has 3 rings with his handpicked teams. In 2018, his team was SWEPT by the warriors! LBJ and his teammates absolutely gave up in game 4 - something that MJ would never have done. The article alludes to skeletons in Jordan's closet, but provides little if any real evidence.

No, Jordan was not a choirboy, but there has never been a player in any sport that combined his level of skill with his absolute mental mastery of the game an his opponent. LBJ ISN'T EVEN CLOSE!
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Jordan never missed the playoffs until he was a Wizard. The Bulls had 8 head coaches in 8 seasons before he got there. The Bulls had only made the playoffs 2 times in 8 years. Michael went 6-0 in finals appearances.
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Originally Posted by Reel 007 View Post
He is nowhere near the best basketball player of all times,
You must've been in that hotel room.
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I'm watching and looking forward to the rest of them.

Episode 3 is the Rodman episode so hopefully there will be plenty of Carmen Electra.
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Originally Posted by Reel 007 View Post
He is nowhere near the best basketball player of all times, he was in the league seven years before he ever made it to a championship game and could not have made it without Phil Jackson, Magic Johnson lost his Coach and starting Center is Rookie season and still won the Championship.
In '91 at age 32 and suffering from the HIV virus Magic Johnson took himself and a collection of no-bodies and misfits to the NBA finals.
“Nowhere near”. Uh-huh
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Originally Posted by Bridgeman53 View Post
“Nowhere near”. Uh-huh
Yes, nowhere near, let me define "nowhere near"
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar/Lew Alcindor, the day he enrolled at UCLA the NCAA outlawed the dunk, the day he graduated they reinstated it.
Willian Norman Chamberlain, the "key" painted area in front of the basket was 12' before Chamberlain entered the NBA, shortly after they widen it to 16', only way to slow him down.
Bill Russell, eleven championship in thirteen years.
Irving "Magic" Johnson, made hall of famers out of ordinary players, 42, 15 and 7 need I say more.
There maybe a place for MJ somewhere after those four.
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Originally Posted by Reel 007 View Post
Yes, nowhere near, let me define "nowhere near"
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar/Lew Alcindor, the day he enrolled at UCLA the NCAA outlawed the dunk, the day he graduated they reinstated it.
Willian Norman Chamberlain, the "key" painted area in front of the basket was 12' before Chamberlain entered the NBA, shortly after they widen it to 16', only way to slow him down.
Bill Russell, eleven championship in thirteen years.
Irving "Magic" Johnson, made hall of famers out of ordinary players, 42, 15 and 7 need I say more.
There maybe a place for MJ somewhere after those four.
Uh-huh


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It is obviously subjective but MJ is as near a consensus pick as the greatest ever as you get. magic, Bird, and the rest of the dream team all say he was the best.
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All great players have a great supporting cast! MJ was fortunate to have Scottie Pippen as a teammate. He probably played just as an important role in transforming the Bulls into a championship team in the 1990’s.
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Lol, Magic couldn’t guard me if he wanted to. Terrible defender. MJ was his era’s best wing defender to go along with the scoring and winning championships. MJ is the GOAT. And I’m a Pistons fan saying that.
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Originally Posted by Reel 007 View Post
Yes, nowhere near, let me define "nowhere near"
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar/Lew Alcindor, the day he enrolled at UCLA the NCAA outlawed the dunk, the day he graduated they reinstated it.
Willian Norman Chamberlain, the "key" painted area in front of the basket was 12' before Chamberlain entered the NBA, shortly after they widen it to 16', only way to slow him down.
Bill Russell, eleven championship in thirteen years.
Irving "Magic" Johnson, made hall of famers out of ordinary players, 42, 15 and 7 need I say more.
There maybe a place for MJ somewhere after those four.
Damn I was going to write your claim off as internet garbage but you've got...stuff.
You seem like a basketball enthusiast. Most of the stuff you just listed is opinion.
So in my opinion, MJ was the greatest athlete of the 20th century. Because of what I watched with my own two eyeballs. I'm from Florida, couldn't give a fart's shit about Chicago at 16 years old. But I played hoops competitively and knew what I was watching was more than remarkable. I feel the same way about Barry Sanders but in a less dramatic accord.
It wasn't just timing imo. Jordan had gifts that we hadn't seen and still haven't. LeBron is amazing but MJ is #1. LBJ #2. Magic #3. Imo
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Aren’t there any Larry Bird fans here? You guys should be ashamed.
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Bird was better than Magic too. I mean Magic had to shoot a set shot for cripes sake. Cat didn't even have a jumper.

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