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Old 04-13-2020, 12:54 PM
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Hey everyone, I'm hoping there's some plumbers here that can point me in the right direction. The double sink in the kitchen has a garbage disposal under the left sink. With water running in the left sink, turn the disposal on, the water begins to drain from the left sink and nasty water comes rushing out of the right sink's drain. Turn off the water and disposal, the right sink doesn't drain, and the left sink starts slowly filling up with water from the drain. Both sinks then will not drain for a long time.

I bought a plunger for sinks and it hasn't worked. I removed the pipe from the garbage disposal down through the trap, and the trap from the right sink, and cleaned them and it hasn't fixed it. What are the next steps? Thanks in advance



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You sent a snake down there yet?

edit: and by the way, don't be surprised if your sprayer hose seems a little shorter after this project
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Not yet, I guess I'd have to buy one. I see there's alot of different options for snakes. Is there a general size for kitchen sinks?
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That would be my next step. Given your clues, there is a clog somewhere downstream of where these two lines hook up..... sucks that it's behind the wall.

I've got a little 1/4" snake I picked up for 20 bucks at Ace that I use for stuff like this.
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Love the electric outlet right below the water outlet.

Somewhere behind that wall those 2 pipes must join together.
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You need the kitchen line cleaned out. Call a plumber or rent a machine a 1/4 inch snake is not what I would advise for a kitchen line, either 3/8 or 1/2.
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Originally Posted by obbayer View Post
Love the electric outlet right below the water outlet.

Somewhere behind that wall those 2 pipes must join together.
But the whole line needs a cable ran through it.

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Originally Posted by obbayer View Post
Love the electric outlet right below the water outlet.

Somewhere behind that wall those 2 pipes must join together.
Yep I'm thinking that's not up to code. I'm about to have a kitchen remodel done so I'm sure that'll be relocated.

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You need the kitchen line cleaned out. Call a plumber or rent a machine a 1/4 inch snake is not what I would advise for a kitchen line, either 3/8 or 1/2.
Any idea the cost for a kitchen line clean out?
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Originally Posted by Pierce89 View Post
Yep I'm thinking that's not up to code. I'm about to have a kitchen remodel done so I'm sure that'll be relocated.



Any idea the cost for a kitchen line clean out?
We just paid $250 for a pretty simple and quick shower drain snaking. Next time I will buy a snake and do it myself. But I will do it when the wife isn't home... :>)
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Originally Posted by pierce89 View Post
yep i'm thinking that's not up to code. I'm about to have a kitchen remodel done so i'm sure that'll be relocated.



Any idea the cost for a kitchen line clean out?
$147

Just cut that check to Roto-Rooter last week. Mine was a little further down that what yours sounds like.
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I charge on average $125 for a kitchen line. But im on the west coast
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Do you have a clean out on the outside wall? Call around I'm sure there are some hungry plumbers right now business is slow. Look for owner operators and ask them. Bigger companies bigger bill
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First off there is a difference between a drain cleaner and a plumber. You don't have to be a master plumber to have a drain cleaning company. So calling a " drain cleaner " or roto rooter would be cheaper. Then a licensed Master Plumber.
You'll need to clean the pipe from the trap weir to the stack.
A 3/8 cable is perferd in kitchen drain cleaning as it by code should be 2 inch diameter pipe. ( thats the part north of the p trap)
Kitchen drains are partially dirty as it years of grease that builds up. Blockage is Usually in horizontal portions of the 2" pipe. So if you have a basement or crawl space you might want to take a peek and see if you have 20 or 30 ft of horizontal 2" kitchen drain. That would be hard to clean.
Having a disposal puts food stuffs in the mix, be care if you used drano , when anyone runs a cable down they can be burned or blinded when they retrieve the snake.
Good luck , send checks to Ken the plumber pay to the order of New york state as they get all the money anyway.
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My experience was.... I had a home on pilings that was build in the 60s with a similar issue. Guy tried to clean out the kitchen drain, went about 60 feet and told me there was a grease trap between my house and the septic system that was the problem. If he got into the grease trap the snake would get stuck, so he stopped. Not sure when your house was built, just a warning if you try it yourself. It was a second home, so I followed the directions on max strength draino, was gone for 5 days, and it cleared the backups.
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Originally Posted by 74lbSteve View Post
We just paid $250 for a pretty simple and quick shower drain snaking. Next time I will buy a snake and do it myself. But I will do it when the wife isn't home... :>
Wow! I was not expecting that much. The youtube videos look like it's a breeze if you have the snake with a motor. I feel like you could buy a nice snake with a motor for $250 that you could use whenever you need but I haven't looked much into the prices yet.

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$147

Just cut that check to Roto-Rooter last week. Mine was a little further down that what yours sounds like.
Do you know how far down? I see different cable lengths for sale and wondering what a good length would be. My house is single-story ranch style but I'm not sure how far I'd need to buy for my pipes.

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My experience was.... I had a home on pilings that was build in the 60s with a similar issue. Guy tried to clean out the kitchen drain, went about 60 feet and told me there was a grease trap between my house and the septic system that was the problem. If he got into the grease trap the snake would get stuck, so he stopped. Not sure when your house was built, just a warning if you try it yourself. It was a second home, so I followed the directions on max strength draino, was gone for 5 days, and it cleared the backups.
So the draino route worked for you? I considered that but wondering how much you'd have to pour down so it goes through the trap and all the way down the drain.
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Originally Posted by jbooker9 View Post
You need the kitchen line cleaned out. Call a plumber or rent a machine a 1/4 inch snake is not what I would advise for a kitchen line, either 3/8 or 1/2.

Jbooker9 do you think a 1/4 inch snake wouldn't work at all for a kitchen line if it was motorized? I found the one below for $100. I know what people say about Harbor Freight but I've always had great experiences with their products and return policies, although I wouldn't buy a tool from them if I worked in the trade/used the tool daily.

https://www.harborfreight.com/23-ft-...caAn0BEALw_wcB
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Clog is either behind the wall or under the house. It sounds like the drain lines are teed somewhere. I would go under the house and see if you can find where the drain lines run and see if there is a clean out. Another option is to plug one side (PVC drain adapter at the wall) and get a tee that connects under the sink and see if you can get the other side to drain.

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1/4" might work, but it also might be a temporary fix. That size is really for bathroom sinks and shower drains. It may punch a hole in the clog just to come back in a few days. It could also grab the whole clog. Tough to say. The correct size, as stated above, is 3/8 for this application.

There will be other clues to tell you how long you need, but if you're not getting water backup anywhere else in the house, my thought is you don't have far to go. Likely less than 25ft.... but this is impossible to know without knowing the plumbing layout of your house.
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Originally Posted by Kenny Powers View Post
1/4" might work, but it also might be a temporary fix. That size is really for bathroom sinks and shower drains. It may punch a hole in the clog just to come back in a few days. It could also grab the whole clog. Tough to say. The correct size, as stated above, is 3/8 for this application.

There will be other clues to tell you how long you need, but if you're not getting water backup anywhere else in the house, my thought is you don't have far to go. Likely less than 25ft.... but this is impossible to know without knowing the plumbing layout of your house.
There's no other water backup in the house so I hope you're right it has to be close!! The sewer pipe that runs from the street under the house is only about 6 ft from the kitchen sink so hopefully it's not bad but I don't know much about house plumbing....

Funny what you said about the sprayer hose in the other post, I didn't even notice! Everything has to come apart anyways again so I can snake. I'm on the fence on buying this 1/4 motorized snake or getting a 3/8 manual one. I've never used either. Have yall had good luck with the manual 3/8 ones?

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