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Old 04-08-2020, 04:07 AM
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Ok, this is the 2nd time in a month the tech couldn't get blood from either arm. Stuck 3-4 x in each arm.....nothing! Drank lots of water leading up to stick as well.

Is this yet another lost art????

This will bother the crap out of me for weeks.




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Yikes...at least you don't pass out like me....1 vile and lights out....takes me 4 - 5 hours to recoup.....pathetic
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Yikes...at least you don't pass out like me....1 vile and lights out....takes me 4 - 5 hours to recoup.....pathetic

Seriously....wow that would really suck!!!
At least you know that, would suck to faint and not be laying down properly.
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I hear that happens to allot of old people.
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I hear that happens to allot of old people.

LOL.....how rude...
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A few things may help...You need to drink a-lot of water, and start the day before. Like at least 64 oz each day. Also, wear a sweatshirt to keep the arms warm the day of the draw. Heat helps the blood vessels dialate. And, most improtant which works for me, is to take a baby aspiran beginning two days before the draw and also one the day of. You will need to check with the your doctor, but the aspiran thins the blood. I have major problems with blood draws and have learned over time. I also have a nurse who is absolutly OUTSTANDING and takes her time with me and really knows what she is doing. She's also very, very, easy on the eyes, so I let her take all the time she needs.......
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you need to find a new phlebotomist to draw your blood! from the pick alone i see a vein i could hit with a dart from across the bar!
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I give blood every 6 weeks and the folks in the bus do fairly well getting it the 1st or 2nd stick. I do drink lots of water, but have never taken aspirin nor keep my arm warm but those both make really good sense.

Thank you!
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you need to find a new phlebotomist to draw your blood! from the pick alone i see a vein i could hit with a dart from across the bar!

My hands are full of good veins but the veins in my arms are deep. I've been giving blood for over 40 yrs on a regular basis and it just seems like it's getting harder and harder to get right the 1st time.

It may very well be because I'm getting older????
Who knows!
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Originally Posted by spraynet 1 View Post
My hands are full of good veins but the veins in my arms are deep. I've been giving blood for over 40 yrs on a regular basis and it just seems like it's getting harder and harder to get right the 1st time.

It may very well be because I'm getting older????
Who knows!
I'm also a long time blood donor. Never had a vein problem with donations, posting for a different reason.

Here's something to watch. About 2 years ago, my hemoglobin started to decline gradually between donations and eventually got too low to me to donate. Doctor put me on an iron supplement and that got me back in the game. Apparently, it's pretty common for older donors to need an iron supplement. Taking vitamin C with the iron supplement improves absorption of the iron.
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Originally Posted by spraynet 1 View Post
My hands are full of good veins but the veins in my arms are deep. I've been giving blood for over 40 yrs on a regular basis and it just seems like it's getting harder and harder to get right the 1st time.

It may very well be because I'm getting older????
Who knows!
donating blood they use larger needles and want the deeper bigger veins! you were donating blood and that is the location they chose for donating, that is your problem. if that was a routine blood draw for checking lab work, that location is acceptable but can be tricky for a novice phlebotomist!
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Originally Posted by spraynet 1 View Post
My hands are full of good veins but the veins in my arms are deep. I've been giving blood for over 40 yrs on a regular basis and it just seems like it's getting harder and harder to get right the 1st time.

It may very well be because I'm getting older????
Who knows!
Yep....it can get more difficult to find good access as we age, although, sometimes it get easier....one simple trick is to use doubled up tourniquets and tight, esp if you are bigger and thicker....easy to trash the phlebo, but the last thing they want to do is miss...
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Are you on BP meds? I find taking them before draw makes it much more difficult for them. So now I wait till after the draw if jts an AM thing.
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ATTENTION: Aspirin does not "thin", i. e. change the viscosity of, the blood. It inhibits the aggregation of platelets which is the first step in the very complex formation of a blood clot. Taking aspirin will not facilitate success in drawing blood.
I also do not understand why they're going into the hand for a routine lab blood draw. the antecubital fossa (the inside of the elbow) is by far the preferred location for blood draws unless you have an IV line, are known to have bad veins in the elbows, or have an AVM created there for renal dialysis.
Have a different tech take a stab at it. Some folks are easy sticks: some are difficult sticks. Some phlebotomists are great at what they do; others are competent for the most part; some are just novices. I've also seen very good techs who can almost always get blood on the first try with one "difficult stick" patient but consistently have problems with another patient. And I've seen other phlebotomists who could hit that second difficult patient but have problems with that first one (inpatient setting with daily blood draws).
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I am what's known as a "hard stick"

Did a lot of chemo, and had a lot of blood tests (I was at great risk of losing my kidneys).

When I go to a new place, or a new staff member, I have to tell them I am a hard stick and to go get whoever it is they go get when they can't get a vein.

They always have that one person they go get, trust me btdt hundreds of times.

The new person will always try to get you to let them try, I have to tell them no.

I will be black and blue all up and down my arms and top of my hands. When they start tapping on your feet it's time to leave and come back later.

If it's a smaller iv, or just a sample for lab tests, I've been told to tell them my "right ac" is the easiest one to get.

Problem is I have so much scar tissue in the easy spots now it hurts a lot more than it used to.

Drinking a LOT of water does seem to help, but only a little bit (for me anyways).

Hope this info helps someone one day, I learned all this the hard way.

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It is why I like quest as opposed to the nurse at the docs. The people at quest do hundreds and are very good. Regular nurses just don't practice enough.

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