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I’m looking to buy a Daiwa Saltist 5000 spinning reel for this season.

Bass Pro and others are selling it for $230. Numerous sellers on eBay are selling the same reel new in box for significantly less, like $165. I’ve seen the same thing with a lot of other reels as well, Shimano TLD 50’s costing $409 retail are available for about $50 less on eBay.

Whats the catch?

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Is there a warranty with your purchase? Customer service? Is it a knockoff? Is it being drop shipped from another source? Do geese really fly south in the winter?
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It’s probably a knockoff. Big problem with eBay. Casing will look legit, but the parts of it are cheap imitations.

this is also a big problem with golf clubs. I saw a tv story about the knock offs and it was pretty eye opening.
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Gray market seller with no warranty at best.

MAP pricing at retailers.

https://www.thebalancesmb.com/what-i...-price-2890196
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I know Shimano doesn't let retailers sell on line below a certain price unless it's out dated inventory. If they do they risk loosing the line. If not a knock of could be a dealer doing it anyway or an employee steeling and dumping on eBay.
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eBay allows ads that say the brand name (Leupold, for one) with scopes priced below $80. Knockoffs, but eBay allows the wording.

My motor home needed a new water pump and the Remco CS rep told me about the 2-year warranty, but ..."don't buy it from Amazon or eBay, because we won't honor the warranty".

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Originally Posted by Lifeislarge View Post
Is there a warranty with your purchase? Customer service? Is it a knockoff? Is it being drop shipped from another source? Do geese really fly south in the winter?
excellent advice

do your homework!

i see a lot of surplus inventory, old models, scratch and dent, etc on ebay

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I do the Misterfu02 Rule of Threes when shopping most items.

which is:

1. compare prices across three separate retailers (eBay, Amazon, Bass Pro, etc.)
2. Buy whoever has the lowest price after tax and shipping.
3. If buying from eBay, investigate seller. Make sure reviews are legit. Could just be gray market, leftover inventory, which a lot of eBay sellers are selling. We do a ton of this at work.

If they have a no questions asked return policy, then that makes things easier. PayPal almost always sides with the buyer, making it pretty easy to get your money back if there’s a problem.

Go for it.
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Most of those are "closeout" items. They were most likely obtained through retailer stock liquidations (NOS clearance, store closings, etc). Some of them may be refurbs liquidated from the manufacturer or their partners. You will see this a lot with power tools, hand tools, electronics, lawn and garden, etc....This makes up about 97% big-box items sold on eBay. There are some sophisticated knocks off out there, but quite rare actually; you are more than likely to get scammed and receive nothing than a sophisticated knock-off... There are quite a few sellers right here on THT that are into the "Clearance/Closeout?Liquidation" business.

MOST of the time, you can be assured you are getting the real thing. MOST of the time, the manufacturer tracks the serial number and knows when it was made and will cover your warranty and can care less if you bought from an "authorized" retailer. Your mileage highly varies here.

You need to decide for yourself if saving 30% off retail is worth the risk with the warranty. If they have a very high feedback number (10k+) and ship form the US, chances are they are a liquidator and selling legit items. If they have low feedback and ship from Asia, Africa or the USSR, they are either knock-offs, or most likely, just a full blown scam.
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Good info guys thanks.

This particular seller has almost 3k positive transactions with no negative feedback and is says US warranty...hmmm
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Good info guys thanks.

This particular seller has almost 3k positive transactions with no negative feedback and is says US warranty...hmmm
one thing i look for is the feedback recent? if no recent feedback, could be a hacked account. as for warranty, always independently read the warranty and verify it would apply!
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Originally Posted by Misterfu02 View Post
I do the Misterfu02 Rule of Threes when shopping most items.

which is:

1. compare prices across three separate retailers (eBay, Amazon, Bass Pro, etc.)
2. Buy whoever has the lowest price after tax and shipping.
3. If buying from eBay, investigate seller. Make sure reviews are legit. Could just be gray market, leftover inventory, which a lot of eBay sellers are selling. We do a ton of this at work.

If they have a no questions asked return policy, then that makes things easier. PayPal almost always sides with the buyer, making it pretty easy to get your money back if there’s a problem.

Go for it.
same here. So far, so good
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You could also contact the MFG to see if they are legit.

Many times if the prices is so much lower than it's either fake or grey market. I have been in Chinese factories that were spitting out fakes that you wouldn't believe. Have also been in some where half the products from the exact same production line were packed for a name brand and the other half for much cheaper off brands. Same product just different packaging.
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You could also contact the MFG to see if they are legit.
how does a MFG necessarily know who is legit? there could be thousands selling their product. getting it from distribution centers and other avenues. some do keep a tight net on their products and who can sell but that is rare. the key is making sure warranty will apply. some warranties require proof of purchase from a legit reseller, some go off manufacturing dates, etc - not all warranties are the same! fwiw, i recently was shopping for something, emailed the MFG said i found so and so selling it, and the MFG said it was a scam. turns out the seller and MFG were feuding because MFG was unhappy the seller was selling below the MSRP. seller was legit, getting from a legit distributor, and from my research warranty should have been just fine.
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how does a MFG necessarily know who is legit? there could be thousands selling their product. getting it from distribution centers and other avenues. some do keep a tight net on their products and who can sell but that is rare. the key is making sure warranty will apply. some warranties require proof of purchase from a legit reseller, some go off manufacturing dates, etc - not all warranties are the same! fwiw, i recently was shopping for something, emailed the MFG said i found so and so selling it, and the MFG said it was a scam. turns out the seller and MFG were feuding because MFG was unhappy the seller was selling below the MSRP. seller was legit, getting from a legit distributor, and from my research warranty should have been just fine.
Most major ones have very robust anti counterfeit / grey market and MAP monitoring programs that do nothing but that to protect their brands and authorized retailers.

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