Go Back  The Hull Truth - Boating and Fishing Forum > BOATING FORUMS > Dockside Chat
Reload this Page >

Can singing be taught or is it a natural ability?

Notices

Can singing be taught or is it a natural ability?

Old 02-14-2020, 02:46 PM
  #1  
Senior MemberCaptains Club MemberPLEDGER
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Northern Ohio
Posts: 15,474
Received 1,710 Likes on 908 Posts
Default Can singing be taught or is it a natural ability?

One of the guys at work was talking about his teenage daughter going to a voice coach because she wants to learn to sing. She has been going for over a year and he said she hasnít gotten any better. Actually he is tired of paying for the teaching because itís not doing any good. I though the ability to sing was more a natural ability and not something that can be taught like playing an instrument. Does anyone know someone that has learned to sing? I am pretty sure nobody could teach me, my singing is worse than fingernails on a chalkboard. My wife asked me to sing the hymns at church but after a few verses she asked me to stop.
Old 02-14-2020, 02:54 PM
  #2  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Palm Beach County
Posts: 10,703
Received 2,209 Likes on 1,252 Posts
Default

my mom cut a few records right out of high school, then toured europe for a year. She will tell you she just wasnt a good enough singer to make the big time. lots of coaches and "singing lessons" as they realized she had natural talent when she was in high school. She still sings in church, weddings, etc, just because she enjoys it. My sister was given singing lessons and it seems to have skipped a generation.

So no I dont think it can be taught.
Old 02-14-2020, 02:57 PM
  #3  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Lewes, DE
Posts: 10,737
Received 2,891 Likes on 1,531 Posts
Default

Both within reason.
Old 02-14-2020, 03:00 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Bayville NJ
Posts: 924
Received 130 Likes on 80 Posts
Default


Somebody, somewhere wants to hear it, let her sing.
Old 02-14-2020, 03:03 PM
  #5  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: AL
Posts: 4,379
Received 645 Likes on 356 Posts
Default

Like pretty much anything itís a combination of both. If you take a naturally talented singer and coach them they can get to their best potential. Coaching helps advance someone and progress them to the best of their ability.

If you take a terrible singer you can coach them all you want and they wonít be a top level singer.

just like baseball and football and golf....and salesmanship...and turning wrenches...you get the idea.

Old 02-14-2020, 03:04 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Jupiter
Posts: 883
Likes: 0
Received 291 Likes on 125 Posts
Default

The answer to both questions is yes. The very best have a natural ability AND the capacity to improve.

Everyone else will have varying degrees of both.
Old 02-14-2020, 03:04 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 729
Received 1,122 Likes on 526 Posts
Default

I am a pretty firm believer in the "God given ability" camp....same with instruments and art

yes people with that ability will never thrive because they have never been coached properly or have been coached poorly, but I don't think that "practice practice practice" will ever get someone without that ability into the same realm as someone with that God given ability (especially one with some practice and coaching even if minimal)

same goes with art although with art I think you can learn a lot more of the techniques and improve, but that improvement will top out and also with art since it is so objective and so much more broad there are areas where people with less talent that would be considered "artistic" can do well like welding or wood working if they develop a unique style and really refine their techniques and take their time to make quality
Old 02-14-2020, 03:04 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: North of Cuber, South of Jawga
Posts: 694
Received 465 Likes on 247 Posts
Default

To some degree singing can be taught, if there is any natural ability to start with.

But......the big caveat is.......The ability to have someone else feel an emotional response when you sing.
That is the god given talent aspect of it.
Like anything practice will make you better, but it don't account for the making others feel the song part.

That is why some who arguably don't have the "greatest voice".......go on to become world famous entertainers.
Old 02-14-2020, 03:11 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Brookline, Ma.
Posts: 1,814
Received 1,041 Likes on 518 Posts
Default

Me.........I love to sing, I don't care, I enjoy myself. I know a crap load of songs....Pretty much anything from the 50's to the 90's. But, here it comes, I suck at it BIG time. My wife just laughs at me..she knows she can't stop me, so she just lets me go. I don't care if others like it or not, I know it's bad, BUT I do have a good time, I love music, and sometimes I get others to join in. Our supermarket plays Sirius---the 50's station. I know all the songs and usually the year as well. It's a good time and ya only live once.......
Old 02-14-2020, 03:12 PM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Pacific Northwest
Posts: 314
Likes: 0
Received 91 Likes on 49 Posts
Default

I think it can within reason. My daughter is the singer in a band in Seattle. Certainly she had natural ability, but the coach we hired while she was in high school really paid off. A good singing coach can teach you things like how to project your voice how to properly regulate your breathing while singing (eliminating that gasp for air that you hear from some singers) and how to do exercises that help you to maintain your voice. Singing uses muscles that, like in any activity using muscles, if not exercised, diminish. This is why opera singers are always exercising their voice. Yes it can help, but someone who has an innate ability will benefit from lessons more than some one who can't carry a tune. Some of us are tone deaf. We can't duplicate a musical note to save our life. Other people can sing the scales up and down perfectly. Play a note on any instrument and they can exactly duplicate it. So if his daughter has some natural ability, lessons could enhance it. But if he thinks it's a waste of money tell him to think hard before stopping it because it may have a lot to do with her own self image. He should talk it over with her and find out how she feels about it before arbitrarily stopping it.
Old 02-14-2020, 03:13 PM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 1,835
Received 698 Likes on 505 Posts
Default

A buddy said that you have to have some wood to start a fire. Singing is like a lot of things, if you have some ability, coaching, voice lessons, etc., can help to improve.
Old 02-14-2020, 03:20 PM
  #12  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: west tn
Posts: 888
Received 1,601 Likes on 753 Posts
Default

Elvis was told by a school music teacher that he sucked! I'd say it worked out pretty well for him tho.

"Teaching how to sing" is one thing EVERYONE can learn! A voice IS an instrument & learning how to use that instrument is no different than learning anyother instrument.

BUT the difference is what the sound produced actually sounds like. A piss poor voice can be trained by the greatest operatic coaches in the world but those coaches can't make Barney Fife sound like Luciano Pavarotti. A wonderful voice IS a gift from God, something born with that CAN'T be taught!

I'd hate to be a parent with a kid who REALLY wants to learn something like singing but honestly has an AWFUL voice!

Last edited by HatchieLuvr; 02-14-2020 at 03:31 PM.
Old 02-14-2020, 03:24 PM
  #13  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 5,535
Received 3,032 Likes on 1,597 Posts
Default

Can you teach someone speed?
Itís about the same.
Old 02-14-2020, 03:26 PM
  #14  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 691
Received 868 Likes on 474 Posts
Talking

Originally Posted by HatchieLuvr View Post
Elvis was told by a school music teacher that he sucked! I'd say it worked out pretty well for him tho.

"Teaching how to sing" is one thing EVERYONE can learn! A voice IS an instrument & learning how to use that instrument is no different than learning anyother instrument.

BUT the difference is what the sound produced actually sounds like. A piss poor voice can be trained by the greatest operatic coaches in the world but those coaches can't make Barney Fife sound like Luciano Pavarotti. A wonderful IS a gift from God, something born with that CAN'T be taught!

I'd hate to be a parent with a kid who REALLY wants to learn something like singing but honestly has an AWFUL voice!
Don Knotts actually had a very good deep voice.
Old 02-14-2020, 03:27 PM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Bright Side of the Moon
Posts: 3,593
Received 677 Likes on 381 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Grunts N Grits View Post
To some degree singing can be taught, if there is any natural ability to start with.

But......the big caveat is.......The ability to have someone else feel an emotional response when you sing.
That is the god given talent aspect of it.

Like anything practice will make you better, but it don't account for the making others feel the song part.

That is why some who arguably don't have the "greatest voice".......go on to become world famous entertainers.
Agree, damn onions
Old 02-14-2020, 03:32 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: west tn
Posts: 888
Received 1,601 Likes on 753 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by rickboat View Post
Don Knotts actually had a very good deep voice.
You're correct and Jim Nabors (Gomer Pyle) was simply UNBELIEVABLE but you get the point.
Old 02-14-2020, 03:35 PM
  #17  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,447
Received 2,834 Likes on 1,275 Posts
Default

With a pretty face and a vocoder who cares.
Old 02-14-2020, 04:33 PM
  #18  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: st. lucie county
Posts: 1,371
Received 1,543 Likes on 947 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by rickboat View Post
Don Knotts actually had a very good deep voice.
thats funny as hell because the first thing I thought was Gomer could have given Pavarotti a run for his money......
Sorry Hatchi, I missed your post where you gave Private Pyle some love
Old 02-14-2020, 04:43 PM
  #19  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: st. lucie county
Posts: 1,371
Received 1,543 Likes on 947 Posts
Default

Back to the original post my 6 year old granddaughter just began singing lessons and her teacher believes the child needs to know the piano to hear the right notes and be familiar with them. Its not an up sell because he includes it in the same class. We'll see soon if its working but worse case scenario she still learns the piano. .......
Old 02-14-2020, 05:06 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 4,504
Received 1,084 Likes on 550 Posts
Default


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.