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Old 02-09-2020, 07:38 PM
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outside, where water hose screws on, when you turned the handle, it went round and round but did not lower the washer onto the seat. I loosened the bonnet nut, took the stem out, it looked normal , cleaned, greased, reinstalled but same deal, stem screwed in, then handle would go round but stem did not lower and close off the water. 35 years old.
went and bought a new brass merican made valve (in china), screwed it onto the pipe all is fine. tag on new valve said not intended to convey watwer for human consumption......what am I missing- its from your house /city water supply? I dont drink water from a hose - buts whats the explanation for this warning? Thanks
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They are just not proven to be “safe” for drinking water. They contain lead. Most typical garden hoses aren’t considered drinking water safe either.
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Originally Posted by The Peddler View Post
They are just not proven to be “safe” for drinking water. They contain lead. Most typical garden hoses aren’t considered drinking water safe either.
Glad I beat the odds of my youth delinquency from drinking out of the hose on a daily basis.
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Drinking water that has flowed through this valve will cause your teeth to fall out, your head to explode and your future children to have multiple noses, not necessarily in that order.
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Originally Posted by rudeskawn View Post
Glad I beat the odds of my youth delinquency from drinking out of the hose on a daily basis.
Its really only a problem in California.....
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Originally Posted by The Peddler View Post
They are just not proven to be “safe” for drinking water. They contain lead. Most typical garden hoses aren’t considered drinking water safe either.
Another possibility is the manufacture did not pay to have their product tested to be a safe water dispensing device......which in turn could imply that there is higher levels of lead in their brass?
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Drinking water that has flowed through this valve will cause your teeth to fall out, your head to explode and your future children to have multiple noses, not necessarily in that order.

thanks for the medical advice.
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Did you check the connection between the handle and the stem. The screw can hold it there but if someone overtightened it the handle will spin but the stem will not turn.
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I was always told that drinking from the house would make your children be born naked. Low and behold it happened to mine.
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Originally Posted by rudeskawn View Post
Glad I beat the odds of my youth delinquency from drinking out of the hose on a daily basis.
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I told my kid the other day to drink out of the hose. He looked at me with horror.
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Its probably either not tested to be safe or made with materials that are not suppose to be used with consumption.
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it has not been tested for consumption safety, so they are forced to put that label on it so some dumbshit doesnt try and sue them!
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Originally Posted by Garett View Post
Another possibility is the manufacture did not pay to have their product tested to be a safe water dispensing device......which in turn could imply that there is higher levels of lead in their brass?
It doesn't imply anything. They are just telling you it hasn't been tested. Testing raises the cost for little gain. Even if it passed, there was a cost involved, along with a recertification and ongoing compliance requirements. If it didn't pass, now they have an even bigger cost for remediation and retesting.
There is no reason for them to test for human consumption safety, so they label it as such. No conspiracies.
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Originally Posted by edwardh1 View Post
outside, where water hose screws on, when you turned the handle, it went round and round but did not lower the washer onto the seat. I loosened the bonnet nut, took the stem out, it looked normal , cleaned, greased, reinstalled but same deal, stem screwed in, then handle would go round but stem did not lower and close off the water. 35 years old.
went and bought a new brass merican made valve (in china), screwed it onto the pipe all is fine. tag on new valve said not intended to convey watwer for human consumption......what am I missing- its from your house /city water supply? I dont drink water from a hose - buts whats the explanation for this warning? Thanks
Starting in 2014, the allowable lead content for products installed in potable water systems was decreased.
https://www.nsf.org/services/by-indu...ent-compliance

Products that comply with the current safe drinking water rules are generally labeled "Lead Free", "Low lead", or similar. Formal listing to look for would be NSF 61. Counter to that, products that have not been tested, or are still made with the older brass or bronze alloys, are generally labeled like the product you purchased.

From what I have seen, many valve manufactures are carrying two model numbers for valves, those with the old alloys, and a "lead free" version with a different alloy, usually identified with a -LF or -LL suffix. There are still non-potable applications like hydronic heating and cooling systems, so valves with the "old" alloys are still manufactured and sold.

Side note: I found soldering one of the newer alloys with silicon to be a PIA.
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Originally Posted by Rolandt03 View Post
it has not been tested for consumption safety, so they are forced to put that label on it so some dumbshit doesnt try and sue them!
Not a chance of that happening, courts in China are closed to the end of the month.

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