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Old 02-03-2020, 07:43 PM
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Seen S&W shield 9mm Performance Center, ported barrel with night sights at a local gun store recently for $385. I was about to snag it up, but realized it has a thumb safety. Itís going to be my first carry gun, but Iím a little hesitant about the thumb safety on a carry gun.
I currently shoot a XDM compact 45 (I do not carry it), so Iíve become accustomed to not swiping off a safety. Certainly not new to firearms by any stretch, just new to conceal carry. Iím going to try to get my hands on the Springfield Hellcat, and a Sig P365 to see how they feel in the very near future, but the price on the shield seems pretty dang good.
So, do you prefer a thumb safety on your carry gun, or no?
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I carried my M&P 40C with the thumb safety for a year.
Then I removed it and carried without.

Was fine either way.
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A manual safety has no place on a carry gun.
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I was unaware they are removable, and would be hesitant in doing so in the unfortunate event of having to use the gun, and putting more complications in a complicated situation by modifying the gun from the factory design.
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Originally Posted by boat_beginner View Post
I was unaware they are removable, and would be hesitant in doing so in the unfortunate event of having to use the gun, and putting more complications in a complicated situation by modifying the gun from the factory design.
The gun came with or without safety. The factory parts are readily available so I was quite comfortable with it.
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My first Handgun was a Glock 17 back in 1988 and I was trained on it...

So it is no safety for me... My thoughts are that as long ad you carry your gun in a holster and train your booger digger to only access the trigger when on target and ready to shoot WITHOUT a safety is the only way to go..

If you have been trained on 1911, you might want the safety, dunno


Also I currently own and carry a 40 cal Shield as my back up handgun (while on duty) and as my off duty carry. It has no safety.. I have owned it for about 4 years, it has been reliable and a good shooter..
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I have two 9mm shields. I don't carry them though. I wouldn't recommend the thumb safety if you're going to carry. The safety on the shields is very small, flat, and stiff. Not the smoothest operation. You're thumb can slide right over the safety without disengaging it. The guns I carry do not have thumb safeties.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
a manual safety has no place on a carry gun.
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I had a 9mm Shield and currently own a .45 Shield. Both have thumb safeties. I conceal carry the weapon with the safety OFF. The reason I bought with a safety is, well, for safety. When the pistol is in the safe or when I have taken it off my side, I unholster, flick safety ON, then re holster. When I strap holster back on, I always verify that the weapon has a round chambered and safety is OFF. I also carry a Glock (no safety), and several 1911 variants (safety ON, weapon in condition 1). I have been taught since very young the importance of firearms safety and safeties, but concealed carry is always Ďsafety offĒ. I will always purchase a handgun with a safety if avail., but you must mentally train yourself to check that weapon when youíre ready to strap it on. If there is any possibility of children to find that weapon, I suggest a safety on that piece always.
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A manual safety has no place on a carry gun.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
A manual safety has no place on a carry gun.

That is way I feel. Picked up a M&P 9mm back in late summer, local outdoors store had them on sale for $229

I have it in a belly band for CCW but not real keen on the safety. To me it is just not the easiest to flip off, not hard but easy to forget which I feel if I ever needed to really use CCW could be a detriment

My XDS 45 does not have safety but does have part built into grip that must be depressed for gun to fire. Like this much better
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
A manual safety has no place on a carry gun.
what he said
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Originally Posted by boat_beginner View Post
Seen S&W shield 9mm Performance Center, ported barrel with night sights at a local gun store recently for $385. I was about to snag it up, but realized it has a thumb safety. Itís going to be my first carry gun, but Iím a little hesitant about the thumb safety on a carry gun.
I currently shoot a XDM compact 45 (I do not carry it), so Iíve become accustomed to not swiping off a safety. Certainly not new to firearms by any stretch, just new to conceal carry. Iím going to try to get my hands on the Springfield Hellcat, and a Sig P365 to see how they feel in the very near future, but the price on the shield seems pretty dang good.
So, do you prefer a thumb safety on your carry gun, or no?
The Hellcat is a nice firearm, but don't jump before you see the new SIG 365 that came out at the shot show. Ported and no traditional sights. Some how they managed to include fiber optic embedded in the top of the slide. The result is a lighted ring with a dot inside. Sight alignment is quick and easy.
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Springfield XDS 7,8 and 9 round mags
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I prefer a de-cocker over a safety
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I bought one of the early Shields for concealed carry, it didnít have the option so I got a safety.
Its no big deal. I carry with the safety off and take it out of battery and put the safety back on when it isnít on my hip.

I havenít shot the newer Shields but the Apex trigger is the tits on mine. Huge improvement over stock.
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Iíve thought of getting it and just keeping the safety off, but wasnít to sure of the chances of the safety being flipped ON while in a holster somehow. Sounds like the safety is a little stiff and that shouldnít be a problem.
im gunna check out a few other weapons before making a final decision.
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Safety or no safety is up to you. For me, no, but don't but that gun until you check out Palmettostatearmory.com.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
A manual safety has no place on a carry gun.
BINGO The only time you'll forget to un-do the safety is at the worst possible moment; you'll be standing there trying to pull the trigger, and become a perfect target.
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The way I see it - What are the chances that you accidentally depress the trigger while doing something (removing pocket, placing on dresser, removing from holster, etc...) versus needing the gun in a life of death situation where you don't have 1 extra second to flip the safety?

Has anyone done the math? I'm not talking about what the self proclaimed gun experts say. But a true probability calculation.... Probability of misfire versus probability of needing 1 extra second in life or death situation.
If I was a betting man, I would say the chances that you accidentally bang the trigger are higher than being in a life or death situation and needing 1 second to flip a thumb safety. Of course, it could still be a high probability that neither happen based on your situations and training.

I get it - holsters protect the trigger so it will never happen to you. But accidents do happen. Even with training, it's human nature to screw up once in a while. The other argument - people forget to flip safety off under stress. Yes that's true, but in some cases just pulling your weapon could de-escalate. Or take another 2 seconds to flip off safety when trigger won't pull.

Too often people make conclusions without statistics to back them up. Or they compare their situation to that of an on-duty police officer that would want a firearm ready in firing condition. I'm generally in very low risk situations day-to-day. No need to compare myself to police or people with high risk jobs.

In my situation - If I screw up and bang a trigger I could endanger the lives of my wife and children. If for some reason I don't have 1 second to flip a thumb safety I only endanger my life. The fact that I made myself a target instead of my family allows them time to escape. Which I tell them to do - make yourself a moving target..

Everyone is different and entitled to their opinion. I'm against the norm with this one. Concealed carry with a safety - absolutely 100%
Not trying to start an argument. Just state the way I see it - everyone's situation is different.

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