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My wife and I have started having a discussion about whether we might want to be 'true' snowbirds from the get-go once we retire and downsize. Our current 'placeholder' plan is to relocate from Central FL to eastern TN near the Smokey Mountains after we retire. At this point we have another 10-12 years before we plan to retire. Recently we started thinking about the possibility of snow birding to FL for the winter (from our place in TN) but then I brought up the idea that if we are planning to head south for the winter, why not start from farther north where the weather is not so hot during the summer? If we set the desired climate as normal daytime high temps less than 80 deg during June/July/Aug with overnight lows in the 50s it seems like areas of Wisconsin/Michigan around the Great Lakes meet that criteria and the normal Spring/Fall temps look reasonable as well (Initial theory/plan would be to be in FL for Nov-March). Another location criteria would be to be located within 60-90 minutes of a decent regional airport.

I did some quick Zillow searches for the areas around Sturgeon Bay and Marinette Wisconson as well as Muskegon Michigan to get a basic feel for home pricing, property taxes, etc and they look pretty reasonable.

Has anyone else decided to leave FL upon retirement and head North? Crazy?

Any other locations up North we might want to consider given our criteria for climate (normal high temp less than 80 for June/July/Aug), cost of living, and access to decent airport?

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Originally Posted by Onewolf View Post
My wife and I have started having a discussion about whether we might want to be 'true' snowbirds from the get-go once we retire and downsize. Our current 'placeholder' plan is to relocate from Central FL to eastern TN near the Smokey Mountains after we retire. At this point we have another 10-12 years before we plan to retire. Recently we started thinking about the possibility of snow birding to FL for the winter (from our place in TN) but then I brought up the idea that if we are planning to head south for the winter, why not start from farther north where the weather is not so hot during the summer? If we set the desired climate as normal daytime high temps less than 80 deg during June/July/Aug with overnight lows in the 50s it seems like areas of Wisconsin/Michigan around the Great Lakes meet that criteria and the normal Spring/Fall temps look reasonable as well (Initial theory/plan would be to be in FL for Nov-March). Another location criteria would be to be located within 60-90 minutes of a decent regional airport.

I did some quick Zillow searches for the areas around Sturgeon Bay and Marinette Wisconson as well as Muskegon Michigan to get a basic feel for home pricing, property taxes, etc and they look pretty reasonable.

Has anyone else decided to leave FL upon retirement and head North? Crazy?

Any other locations up North we might want to consider given our criteria for climate (normal high temp less than 80 for June/July/Aug), cost of living, and access to decent airport?

Thanks.
on this side of the ditch I don't know where you are going to find temperatures like that in the dog days of summer in the Great Lakes regions unless you go another 2,000 miles north..
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Check out Leelanau Peninsula/Traverse City area of MI. And it's cold AF even in the summer

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Originally Posted by Eye8atoad View Post
Check out Leelanau Peninsula/Traverse City area of MI. And it's cold AF even in the summer
And Traverse City has a regional airport, Glen Arbor is very cool all summer. There is a beautiful chain of lakes in Bellaire County east of East Traverse Bay. Lake Charlevoix is very nice. Just know that it does snow in that whole area in April.
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on this side of the ditch I don't know where you are going to find temperatures like that in the dog days of summer in the Great Lakes regions unless you go another 2,000 miles north..
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on this side of the ditch I don't know where you are going to find temperatures like that in the dog days of summer in the Great Lakes regions unless you go another 2,000 miles north..
http://www.usclimatedata.com/climate...erican&title=1
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I personally would pick Wisconsin north of Milwaukee around Lake Winnebago.
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The Traverse City area of Mi , is beautiful , but have high taxes .
That whole part of the state is gorgeous , plus there is a ton of inland lakes .
The north shore of Lake Mi is great also , Iron Mountain area and south .
Might want to try Minnesota , the chain of lakes / boundary waters ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boundary_Waters
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Originally Posted by Eye8atoad View Post
Check out Leelanau Peninsula/Traverse City area of MI. And it's cold AF even in the summer

I used to go dirtbike riding / racing due east of Traverse City and I can say that leaf colors in that picture are genuine.

Look into Kentucky as well. Buddy of mine lives in Bardstown Kentucky and I tell you, that is some beautiful country out that way.
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Door county is very nice to visit and really nice people in the Wisconsin state. Have you considered the NC mountains? The Boone, Blowing Rock area has some very nice weather and is a day drive back to Fl.
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There are a ton of little harbor towns all the way up the western coast of Michigan, and getting a little breeze off the lake tempers those hottest days of the summer. Regional airports in Grand Rapids and Traverse City would be in reach for several of those towns.
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Originally Posted by Smitty 45 View Post
The Traverse City area of Mi , is beautiful , but have high taxes .
That whole part of the state is gorgeous , plus there is a ton of inland lakes .
The north shore of Lake Mi is great also , Iron Mountain area and south .
Might want to try Minnesota , the chain of lakes / boundary waters ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boundary_Waters
I noticed the property taxes around Oshkosh are fairly high as well relative to the assessed value but there are a lot of viable options in the Appleton/Oshkosh area.

Not looking to be on the water, but it seems like being close to the large bodies of water helps moderate the summer temps.
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Originally Posted by seawalker57 View Post
Door county is very nice to visit and really nice people in the Wisconsin state. Have you considered the NC mountains? The Boone, Blowing Rock area has some very nice weather and is a day drive back to Fl.
We would consider a mountain location in NC/TN, but it looks like the high temps in June/July/Aug are a little higher than ideal if we plan to be true snow birds. But still a consideration.
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Petoskey Mi, traverse, mackinaw, great summers, great outdoor activities. I like a little further north than muskegon.

If it helps, I live 4/5 months in petoskey and about 1.5 months in the keys currently. My long term plan is 6 and 6ish.

Awesome freshwater fishing and lots of outdoor activities available.
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The people in WI are great, friendly, and generally hard workers.

But the weather, the weather pretty much sucks. Whatever you read on a chart NEVER seems to be the case. It’s generally very inconsistent, wet, and cloudy.
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Lived in green bay for 9 years. Easy access to hunt and fishing, Door County and the U.P. door is always 10 degs cooler than the Fox Valley area. Bring lots of bug spray the further north yo go in da' summer. Black flies are a bitch near superior and the waters edge.
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We left SW FL for N MI in 2015. Summer was great last year, it was on a Saturday too. Plan on running A/C for about July 15-Sep 1 to take out the edge of humidity. Windows open is great, even at 70F, its still sticky when it rains, but not like SW FL. MI Lakes are better than WI. Less deer ticks too in MI.

Traverse City has direct flights to Punta Gorda/Sarasota, probably Otown but I haven't looked.

Check out Glen Arbor area. Bit touristy, but the Glen lakes are the best I've seen here. Power island in Grand Traverse bay is cool for a day trip or camp out. We put in in Bower's Harbour on the peninsula.

I'd suggest find any 'all sports' lake in MI inland and get a cabin there. Some are near $100k starting if get off the beaten path. Many lake homes are sold word of mouth locally and never get listed. The ones listed on good lakes, are over priced, but they eventually sell quickly.






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When I retire, Jan 1 - Apr 1 in MI (Easter is FL, hunting eggs w the kids in the dirty snow/ice sucks), depending on if enough snow to snowmobile/snowboard. Then To FL until July 4. Then July 4- Sept 15 MI. Then FL Sept 15 - Jan 1. Maybe Christmas or Thanksgiving in MI if its snowing a lot to play in the pow or see the leaves change in mid Oct.
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Winter in MI is as much fun as Summer.




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I live just north of Oshkosh outside of Appleton. We keep a boat in a small town, Freemont on the Wolf river. We're rather new to boating, but i'm born and raised in northern WI. The Wolf is nice for getting to rec areas and lots of good fishing. It also connects to Lakes Poygan, Winneconne, Buttes Mortes, and then to the big one, Winnebago.

Taxes aren't bad where we are i don't think. Summers are a mixed bag. Past 2 have been rather short, cooler, with some heat, lots of rain. Generally speaking i like our summers. Cooler evenings, warm days. We do get humidity but not FL humidity regularly.

The UP of MI and Door county has a lot of nice areas. Lower MI too. We visit friends near Ann Arbor and Brighton every other summer or so. Always nice likes and a good time.

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