Notices

Taylor's & co. .357 rifle

Old 01-08-2020, 08:50 AM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 565
Likes: 0
Received 257 Likes on 177 Posts
Default Taylor's & co. .357 rifle

Anybody no anything on these rifles? Found one in a pawn shop and thought it felt like a really nice gun. Super smooth action, dont think it had many rounds through it, and pretty to look at. They wanted something like 1300 for it. I thought was a slap in the face. No way would I pay close to retail in a pawn shop but wasnt sure at the time what they go for. Seems what they want is new pricing.

What would be a fair and a good price on one of these used. It's a model 1873



Old 01-08-2020, 08:57 AM
  #2  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Anderson SC
Posts: 3,876
Received 1,181 Likes on 610 Posts
Default

Well... Umberti makes very fine copies of historic guns. That one is a Winchester. Its priced that way because it likely IS a new gun. Pawn shops are no longer just used guns in most cases. They are FFL dealers. $1300 is the MSRP for that gun. Ive rarely found any deals on a used gun at a pawn shop anymore. With the advent on the internet, every pawn shop owner is an expert on used gun prices.

New... its about a $1100 to $1200 gun.
Old 01-08-2020, 09:06 AM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Trussville, AL
Posts: 981
Received 525 Likes on 305 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by cphilip View Post
Well... Umberti makes very fine copies of historic guns. That one is a Winchester. Its priced that way because it likely IS a new gun. Pawn shops are no longer just used guns in most cases. They are FFL dealers. $1300 is the MSRP for that gun. Ive rarely found any deals on a used gun at a pawn shop anymore. With the advent on the internet, every pawn shop owner is an expert on used gun prices.

New... its about a $1100 to $1200 gun.
^^^^THIS^^^^
and the new Winchesters are about the same.........
Old 01-08-2020, 09:13 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 565
Likes: 0
Received 257 Likes on 177 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by cphilip View Post
Well... Umberti makes very fine copies of historic guns. That one is a Winchester. Its priced that way because it likely IS a new gun. Pawn shops are no longer just used guns in most cases. They are FFL dealers. $1300 is the MSRP for that gun. Ive rarely found any deals on a used gun at a pawn shop anymore. With the advent on the internet, every pawn shop owner is an expert on used gun prices.

New... its about a $1100 to $1200 gun.
the lady told me about 2 other guns that the same guy sold to them. It's not new and shows that but looks almost new. When you say it's a Winchester, are saying it's a Winchester replica. I ask because Taylor's is in Winchester, Va. Figured it was a umberti made 1873, tuned by Taylor's? I tried Taylor's (guy was in a meeting) and will call back later today with the serial number and maybe get the run down.

Been wanting a .357 lever for a while and trying not get all excited about this one cause it doesnt seem like it's going to be a deal that I cant get any day of the week.
Old 01-08-2020, 09:37 AM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 76 Likes on 28 Posts
Default

Henry Big Boy in 357mag is about half the price of that gun.
Old 01-08-2020, 09:43 AM
  #6  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Anderson SC
Posts: 3,876
Received 1,181 Likes on 610 Posts
Default

Well... depending upon what exact issue it is and what Taylor did... it could be indeed be worth the $1300. Even used for that matter. You'd have to find out what the service was on it and try and find out what base they started with to do it. But its possible. Some guns do not lose any value or depreciate. Some actually appreciate in value. If you were impressed by it and like it. I wouldn't be scared off of making an offer once you do your research.

https://www.taylorsfirearms.com/long...er-action.html


And yes... a copy of a Winchester. A good copy at that.
Old 01-08-2020, 11:20 AM
  #7  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 565
Likes: 0
Received 257 Likes on 177 Posts
Default

Just talked to taylors and they said at the point of sale it was a standard gun with no additional work, made in 2014 and sold in 15. Might make offer and see how they react.


Old 01-08-2020, 11:47 AM
  #8  
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Fly over country.
Posts: 51
Received 394 Likes on 187 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ecjcrown View Post
Henry Big Boy in 357mag is about half the price of that gun.
And twice as heavy! henrys are so heavy they end up being safe queens.
Old 01-08-2020, 12:10 PM
  #9  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: St. Augustine, Fl
Posts: 21,989
Received 4,307 Likes on 1,712 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ecjcrown View Post
Henry Big Boy in 357mag is about half the price of that gun.
And more complaints about improper functioning on Henry's too... Theu are really not very good rifles and they dont seem to stand behind them very well.. check the internet for complaints..
Old 01-08-2020, 12:25 PM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 141
Likes: 0
Received 76 Likes on 28 Posts
Default

I never check complaints that are not vetted.
Old 01-08-2020, 12:26 PM
  #11  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Anderson SC
Posts: 3,876
Received 1,181 Likes on 610 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ole_blue View Post
Just talked to taylors and they said at the point of sale it was a standard gun with no additional work, made in 2014 and sold in 15. Might make offer and see how they react.
Very valuable info then. Not sure why Taylor has its name on there if they didn't do anything. Perhaps they are the importer of them? But their typical service is like $300 so...

If it were me Id offer a grand and go from there. I saw one on Davidsons site for about $1100 by the time it got to you.
Old 01-08-2020, 12:27 PM
  #12  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Anderson SC
Posts: 3,876
Received 1,181 Likes on 610 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ecjcrown View Post
I never check complaints that are not vetted.

Ive heard them too... however they are very good at customer service. And they are USA made... So figure the value of that when deciding where to go.
Old 01-08-2020, 01:10 PM
  #13  
Senior MemberCaptains Club MemberPLEDGER
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Seven Springs, NC, USA
Posts: 751
Likes: 0
Received 88 Likes on 35 Posts
Default

Taylors, Cimarron, etc. are all made by Uberti as well as the Uberti, the previous names are the importers. They may spec. out certain finishes or configurations but they are all the same mfg. Some people like to believe that Taylor's or Cimmaron cherry picks the guns they import. My understanding is that this is not true so all of these guns made by Uberti will be of the exact same quality. The "real" Winchesters are made in Japan by Miroku. All the 73's whether Italian(insert importer name here) or Japchesters have reputations of good quality , with occasional problems on particular rifles but not the series. Seems a little steep to me for used. My personal preference if price was exactly the same would be to get a Winchester. I doubt that it's any better. Some guys will only ride a Harley because of the name and an Indian is just as good or better. ( I don't ride street bikes that was meant only as an example)

A quick search shows these to retail $1050 to $1200


FP
Old 01-08-2020, 01:14 PM
  #14  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: St. Augustine, Fl
Posts: 21,989
Received 4,307 Likes on 1,712 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ecjcrown View Post
I never check complaints that are not vetted.
Then by all means buy all you can then...I will smile and say "I told you so"
Old 01-08-2020, 01:17 PM
  #15  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: St. Augustine, Fl
Posts: 21,989
Received 4,307 Likes on 1,712 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by cphilip View Post
Ive heard them too... however they are very good at customer service. And they are USA made... So figure the value of that when deciding where to go.
If you are talking Henry's, not so much.. Cousin had one he won at the National NRA convention a special NRA commemorative. Sent it back twice, never fixed it would not eject round..I know others that have had issues with Henrys.. He just traded it..

Last edited by Cracker; 01-08-2020 at 08:30 PM.
Old 01-08-2020, 01:22 PM
  #16  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Anderson SC
Posts: 3,876
Received 1,181 Likes on 610 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Cracker View Post
If you are talking Henry's, not so much.. Cousin had one he won at the National NRA convention a spent ran NRA commemorative. Sent it back twice, never fixed it would not eject round..I know others that have had issues with Henrya..
Ive heard this too. But they alway seem to make it right one way or another. They either refund or complely replace. Ive never heard of them leaving a customer out in the cold.
Old 01-08-2020, 08:16 PM
  #17  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,738
Likes: 0
Received 225 Likes on 122 Posts
Default

I own one of these lever rifles. There are many variations. Mine is blued.

Great rifle. Between my 1943 M1 Garland and this one, it’s hard to pickup my AR’s.

So so much fun to shoot, accurate and cheap to shoot.
Old 01-08-2020, 08:21 PM
  #18  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Tarpon Springs, FL
Posts: 3,297
Received 1,395 Likes on 922 Posts
Default

I have a Model 1894 Marlin .357 carbine, manufactured about 1980 in the US. Bought it to take on the sailboat while cruising down the coast, Everglades to Keys. Not much use for it now.
Old 01-08-2020, 08:24 PM
  #19  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Anderson SC
Posts: 3,876
Received 1,181 Likes on 610 Posts
Default

1980's built Marlins were still well made. Shame your not closer to me. Id be tempted to offer on it. Maybe the OP is closer to you?
Old 01-08-2020, 08:43 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 565
Likes: 0
Received 257 Likes on 177 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by GaryDoug View Post
I have a Model 1894 Marlin .357 carbine, manufactured about 1980 in the US. Bought it to take on the sailboat while cruising down the coast, Everglades to Keys. Not much use for it now.
If your close and want to sell it I might be a buyer. I'm in central florida, st cloud to be exact. PM me with some details if you want.

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.