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Old 12-23-2019, 05:53 AM
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So on my way to the train this morning, the road salters were out in full force making sure there was plenty on the dry and clear primary and secondary roads - why?
It hasn't precipitated in 3 days and is not forecast to do so until we get some rain on Sunday (12/28). Yesterday it was 46 degrees and it dropped to 36 overnight and will be heading up to 50 later today.
So what am I missing in their evaluation and use of road salt?
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Its going to be warm next 6 days ....get the excess out and clean the equipment maybe....why let it sit and rot away or black ice concerns melting and refreeze issues overnight
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Originally Posted by LI32 View Post
So on my way to the train this morning, the road salters were out in full force making sure there was plenty on the dry and clear primary and secondary roads - why?
It hasn't precipitated in 3 days and is not forecast to do so until we get some rain on Sunday (12/28). Yesterday it was 46 degrees and it dropped to 36 overnight and will be heading up to 50 later today.
So what am I missing in their evaluation and use of road salt?
Don't worry the same idiots are in the Philly area. Friday morning they were salting the roads coming into work. I'm thinking WTF, granted its below freezing but we are not supposed to get rain or snow for another week
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usa...amp/2727582001

Happened yesterday.
No precipitation at all.
Freezing fog. Never heard of it myself.
Roads not treated.
CYA?

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They just want to make sure the roads are safe for Santa's sleigh, them reindeer are getting old and may not make it all night by air.

Seriously though, they're putting enough down so they can take a couple days off for Christmas.
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What do you think keeps America's car manufacturers in business? Gotta kill 'em somehow...
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I will ad this, we were in charge of clearing school parking lots in inclement weather.

In 32 years I can say we never once made everyone happy.

Too soon, too late, too much, not enough blah blah blah

Would you rather have it and not need it or the other way around?

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What do you think keeps America's car manufacturers in business? Gotta kill 'em somehow...
or they could not treat and let everyone total their cars. Same effect just much quicker result.
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Yall gonna bich about everything?
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Getting on the end of the year and what they don’t use (surplus chemicals/salt) could be deducted from next year’s Allowance?

for a laugh with a little truth:
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The big three pay the road crews to accelerate the rot on the vehicles,more rot equals less vehicles which slows the development of potholes which the road crews have to fill.The increased rot equals more new vehicle sales.Now if we could just get the gas tax higher we would all be in nirvana.Maybe we could all be forced into electric vehicles and the gasoline industry could pay the electric companies to shut down the plants when something catches on fire...On a serious note,I was unfortunate enough to drive behind a experimental liquid brine application here in Michigan where rock salt is the norm. The brine spray got all over the frame and engine compartment and literally started rusting everything metal. Complete and utter stupidity to put that crap on a road. Instant 20 years of rust in one year.
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My town in SD doesn't. We get snow too, a lot of it sometimes.. All cinders I'm told, nothing else.
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Its a Gov’t operation. Looking for logic or common sense is a waste of your time.
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I just can't see road salt making that much of a difference. Some improvement sure, but not enough to make it worth rotting all the cars and road infrastructure.
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So if it freezes and they haven’t salted the roads then everybody goes sliding off into the ditches?

Sorry to be clueless on this, but I have been driving on icy/snowy roads for the past three decades and have yet to see a salted road.

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Clear roads except a few wet spots on my way in this morning and my truck is coated with salt. We have a heated power washer at work I use regularly to just blast off my truck and wash the underside.

It's a losing battle in the northeast trying to preserve a vehicle.
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Originally Posted by 1976K204x4 View Post
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Happened yesterday.
No precipitation at all.
Freezing fog. Never heard of it myself.
Roads not treated.
CYA?
Its called Black Ice because its very hard to see. Ground is below freezing, fog rolls in and the ground acts like a magnet. As soon as the fog hits the frozen surface if freezes. Similar to freezing rain
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As a plow/salt truck driver for the government, let me tell we are no happier being out there then you are to see us.

It is only December, and I have already put in almost as many hours this season as I have in some entire seasons. As much as people complain that we are out there, when it does not look like we should be. As soon as people start hitting the black ice, and getting into wrecks people are not happy. The powers to be have to look at the forecast and the worst case possible. Keep in mind, from the time the decision is made to activate, to the first drop of salt is spread is probably 3 to 4 hours. You can not wait until ice starts to call us out.

The powers to be also feel that when we are working, the trucks should be out road. (They like to see movement on the GPS)

Hope that gives you some insight as to what is happening.

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The auto industry pays for it as part of a plan to rust out cars.
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As a plow/salt truck driver for the government, let me tell we are no happier being out there then you are to see us.

It is only December, and I have already put in almost as many hours this season as I have in some entire seasons. As much as people complain that we are out there, when it does not look like we should be. As soon as people start hitting the black ice, and getting into wrecks people are not happy. The powers to be have to look at the forecast and the worst case possible. Keep in mind, from the time the decision is made to activate, to the first drop of salt is spread is probably 3 to 4 hours. You can not wait until ice starts to call us out.

The powers to be also feel that when we are working, the trucks should be out road. (They like to see movement on the GPS)

Hope that gives you some insight as to what is happening.
Bs! GM is paying you so people have to buy new cars!
lolololololol


I hope those guys are joking.

They have no idea what goes into making those decisions.
I never once got a call from the Ford dealer telling me to salt the roads. Lol


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