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Old 12-22-2019, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyStark View Post
when the dog goes rouge....
I don't think these dogs wear makeup chief
Old 12-22-2019, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by stokes_landing View Post
I don't think these dogs wear makeup chief
As they say. You can't put lipstick on a pig. Well, except in Mississippi, it is allowed there.
Old 12-22-2019, 09:16 PM
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Hey, you want a pit bull fine. You want to stockpile hand grenades and C4 I'm good with it. But don't try to pretend they aren't inherently dangerous.
Old 12-23-2019, 06:18 AM
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Any way you slice it, there are some nasty breeds. I’m a dog lover but I also understand selective breeding in dogs and pits are in a group that IMHO should not be breed for house pets or private ownership. I base that statement not only on statistics but on an understanding of how these dogs think and on who the folks are that most commonly want them. They make good hog hunting dogs for sure.
Old 12-23-2019, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by AsurfAholic View Post
Fear fear fear. Judgements and opinions!

hey guess what. Heart disease kills far more people every single day than pit bulls kill in a year.

Where’s the outrage against McDonald’s (and the like) and fake food and all the parents that do not teach healthy eating habits to their children?

oh, I guess you are one of them so you wouldn’t dare.

but god forbid another one of the millions of pit bulls acts out its animal instincts.
If the future of the breed is dependent on the above argument then they are DOOMED as a breed.
Old 12-23-2019, 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by TonyStark View Post
the responses are really interesting....

Heart disease? Deflection much?

Bottom line the dogs kill....Your responses are like children. Calling people names doesn't change anything. Making references about manhood just make you look childish... I wonder what kind of a tough guy hides behind his dog? All I'm saying is be responsible and prove you can afford it if / when the dog goes rouge.... You eat like shit and get heart disease, you paid the consequences....You shoot someone, you pay the consequences...Your little pet "foo-foo" kills someone, then you spend your life with your new cell mate Bubba....You don't think so?
I disagree. If you did not intend for your dog to attack someone else, or your own child, or self, then its not a crime. There's no guilty mind. There is personal liability, which already exists. Your dog attacks me, I'm going to sue you. If I die, I hope my family sues you. Doesn't mean you are a criminal deserving of spending time with rapists and murderers. In a dangerous world, anything can be a danger. Some people cherry pick what they want to rail against and then every time one of these rare events happens, it makes the news, and then all those same people point at it and say "see?! told you so!" It is laughable.

I don't disagree that the statistics show that pitbulls are the most likely breed of dog to attack a person. Eradicate the breed and then another one will be at the top of the list. It would be a never ending cycle to narrow the list of breeds to one that is perfectly safe. Nothing is safe. I agree with personal responsibility. Your dog harms someone else, then there is a legal claim against you. That system is already in place. Nothing really to change. We don't need more laws, or restrictions, or less freedom.
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I would volunteer at a kill shelter that just took in pits.
Old 12-23-2019, 07:42 AM
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Pitbull ownership is a great IQ test.
Old 12-23-2019, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigrodholder View Post
Pitbull ownership is a great IQ test.


Old 12-23-2019, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bigrodholder View Post
Pitbull ownership is a great IQ test.
Bad temperament pit bull ownership is a great IQ test. If you don't know your dogs temperament around people, including kids, and other dogs, and if you continue to harbor that dog.....
Old 12-23-2019, 09:31 AM
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Hate those things..

I've had labrador retrievers all my life and will never own a different dog. They are absolutely fantastic dogs. Crazy smart and they love everyone. Only other breed I might consider is a bloodhound
Old 12-23-2019, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by AsurfAholic View Post
I disagree. If you did not intend for your dog to attack someone else, or your own child, or self, then its not a crime. There's no guilty mind......

Some people cherry pick what they want to rail against and then every time one of these rare events happens, it makes the news, and then all those same people point at it and say "see?! told you so!" It is laughable.

I don't disagree that the statistics show that pitbulls are the most likely breed of dog to attack a person. Eradicate the breed and then another one will be at the top of the list......
I understand your logic, but think through your statements. You agree that " pitbulls are the most likely breed of dog to attack a person". I would take it a step further and say they are more likely to kill or seriously injure a person.... With that knowledge and awareness, if you choose this breed then you do have a guilty mind. You've made a choice. If you bought a gun that was known to fire on it's own, you don't think you would be held criminally responsible if it shot a child in the head?

The fact that these owners have the same mentality shows me they don't except the consequences....It's like "oh well, I didn't expect that to happen. My puppy "foo foo" is so sweet. Sue me and take all my non-existent money. When they put my dog down I'll just go buy another one"

My position is, aggressive breed dogs should be considered a weapon. Not specifically Pits as the owners will, just as you said, move to the next breed. I personally wouldn't own one of these dogs unless I had a $10mill liability policy. I'm pretty sure most owners don't have any liability insurance....In fact some homeowners policies ask about dog ownership and won't write a policy for these types of dogs...That should tell you something right there.

Old 12-23-2019, 10:44 PM
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I control the guns and the dogs.

You control the kitchen and the sammiches.
Old 12-24-2019, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by AsurfAholic View Post
I disagree. If you did not intend for your dog to attack someone else, or your own child, or self, then its not a crime. There's no guilty mind. There is personal liability, which already exists. Your dog attacks me, I'm going to sue you. If I die, I hope my family sues you. Doesn't mean you are a criminal deserving of spending time with rapists and murderers. In a dangerous world, anything can be a danger. Some people cherry pick what they want to rail against and then every time one of these rare events happens, it makes the news, and then all those same people point at it and say "see?! told you so!" It is laughable.

I don't disagree that the statistics show that pitbulls are the most likely breed of dog to attack a person. Eradicate the breed and then another one will be at the top of the list. It would be a never ending cycle to narrow the list of breeds to one that is perfectly safe. Nothing is safe. I agree with personal responsibility. Your dog harms someone else, then there is a legal claim against you. That system is already in place. Nothing really to change. We don't need more laws, or restrictions, or less freedom.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. If a parent leaves a firearm on a table and a child takes that firearm and kills someone. The parent can be charged with a crime. If that same parent has some pit bulls that are known for being super aggressive, and have been warned about them - I bet the state could probably find some charges that would stick.

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