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At 73, even I am amazed at old guys’resistance to improvements through technology. I have otherwise intelligent friends making statements like “ I won’t own a vehicle without carburetor” or “ my ‘74 Buick was built better than anything today”. Some have recently accepted the flip style cell phone, but only for emergencies.

This came to my attention yesterday, after I’d toiled for a day and a half breaking a 4” by 6’ opening in my concrete floor due to a plumbing issue. With still 5’ of work remaining, and after using two sledge hammers, a grinder with a diamond wheel and a light duty Makita hammer drill, I finally accepted the “new” idea of renting a small Hilti electric jackhammer.

$63 and ten minutes of work later, that job is done.

Anyone else have similar stories of old guys resistance to change and trying to live in the past???
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What's way worse to me is the ones that half way embrace it, but refuse to learn any more than what they want to use it for.

For instance, I have one co-worker that can't set the print area in an excel sheet to save his life. Also can't grasp why it's important to break up info if you want to be able to use it effective. Unfortunately said co-worker is my dad...so not much I can do.
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All I can say is "Duh!"
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My whole job is dealing with old people who are too lazy to learn new things. They come up with BS excuses like "i'm not good with technology" or "i don't get computers". I don't know why they think that is acceptable to not change with the changing job. If a mechanic in the 80s said he "doesn't get fuel injection" and that he will only work on carbs, he would be unemployed.
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But what about the Elders and their WW2 can openers? Are we going to leave them behind?
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I've got a good friend that refuses to use a computer for accounts receivables and paperwork.. still uses a type writer
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At 73, even I am amazed at old guys’resistance to improvements through technology. I have otherwise intelligent friends making statements like “ I won’t own a vehicle without carburetor” or “ my ‘74 Buick was built better than anything today”. Some have recently accepted the flip style cell phone, but only for emergencies.

This came to my attention yesterday, after I’d toiled for a day and a half breaking a 4” by 6’ opening in my concrete floor due to a plumbing issue. With still 5’ of work remaining, and after using two sledge hammers, a grinder with a diamond wheel and a light duty Makita hammer drill, I finally accepted the “new” idea of renting a small Hilti electric jackhammer.

$63 and ten minutes of work later, that job is done.

Anyone else have similar stories of old guys resistance to change and trying to live in the past???
I still use a flip phone
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My friend Alex won't even use a cell phone. And he is proud of it. He does however love YouTube for the procedural videos. Drives me nuts and he counts on people around him to use tech for his benefit.
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Men are set in their way/resistant to change.

We have staff that make it hard to adopt new technology for this reason

This situation can affect others in a negative way. For example, due to back problems I visited 2 Orthopedic Surgeons. Both about 60 y.o. and both recommended the same type of fairly major surgery with neither offering real confidence that it would work. I then went to a younger surgeon that offered a minimally invasive procedure only after insisting on additional diagnostics to better ensure that it would work.

Experience has benefits, but being intimidated or not interested in new technology is a flaw.

Btw - Taking on the concrete job at 73 seems pretty strenuous. good on you.

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Originally Posted by oldkanuk View Post
At 73, even I am amazed at old guys’resistance to improvements through technology. I have otherwise intelligent friends making statements like “ I won’t own a vehicle without carburetor” or “ my ‘74 Buick was built better than anything today”. Some have recently accepted the flip style cell phone, but only for emergencies.

This came to my attention yesterday, after I’d toiled for a day and a half breaking a 4” by 6’ opening in my concrete floor due to a plumbing issue. With still 5’ of work remaining, and after using two sledge hammers, a grinder with a diamond wheel and a light duty Makita hammer drill, I finally accepted the “new” idea of renting a small Hilti electric jackhammer.

$63 and ten minutes of work later, that job is done.

Anyone else have similar stories of old guys resistance to change and trying to live in the past???
Nope . . . you must live in a very "mentally" old area.

There are two carbed vehicles in our subdivision . . . one is a pristine 1971 Alpha Romero and the other is a EVO powered Harley FXR.

I know of NO ONE who uses a flip phone.

We help each other within our own skillset. Some are good photographers, some mechanics, some really generally handy. I recently helped a early 30's couple install a wall mount for their new 70" TV but somehow I can resist the "need" that many seem to have to make some kind of general comment about "their" generation. I can't even wrap my head around the concept of not renting a tool because "too old to know better". Now, I do admit that there is not much DIY roofing.

But heck, most of us are only in our 60's . . . well, except for the Alpha owner . . . he is 92.

Oh well, I guess as a society we seem to be compelled to find a way to always divide society into "us" vs. "them" and then describe why "us" are so much better/faster/cuter/smarter than them. I prefer to not join in but y'all have a good time

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I own a software company. It's not really understood. The result is that those resisting are smart, but not sure how to explain it themselves. The apologists say, hey, this doodad does this n this n that, so neato! But it's not technology itself that is the problem, like a dancing elephant. Sure, the elephant can dance, but how well? Instead, is is extremely poor implementations of technology for interaction that humans are told to use, which are bad. Most things are garbage. VCR's in the 80's - prime example - no one can set the time. My microwave - all the buttons are the same shape, color, and do radically different things other than the user's goal 99% of the time. Now, fast forward and why every single custom business application is pure garbage and forced by upper mgt to use to the users. Meanwhile, the users (well, people) go back to Excel to at least track what they are really having to get done when the system built by the cheapest offshore time for millions of dollars is actually throwaway when the business goals/needs/market change.

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My '87 Buick has the latest Holley EFI and harness on it.
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I'm a boomer but love technology as long as it works.
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Originally Posted by richinct View Post
I still use a flip phone
Me too! And I'm always surprised at how many people say that they wish they had kept their flip phone instead of going "smart".
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For me it is not so much learning new tech, but remembering it.

If I don't use certain things I forget what to do.

One to many blows to the head unfortunately.

I can remember stupid stuff from years a go that I will never need but can't remember what I learned yesterday.

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Technology goes in cycles. We each find the place in the cycle that we feel comfortable with and that is where we live. Those who think they are tech savvy, are usually the least informed as nobody can stay current at the rate things are moving in tech these days. The older I get, the more I realize that there is a point at which smart people give up on staying "current" or "trendy" and for good reason. My grandmother never learned to drive a car. Not because she was technology resistant but because she didn't need to. If she were still alive, she would be vindicated with an autonomous vehicle. Some might say she was visionary and didn't waste time on transitional technology. She was self sufficient where she was. The more "technology" one engages, in the less independent they become if technology became inaccessible.

I happen to find vacuum tube technology very interesting. Most people today have forgotten it but in many ways it is still current and it still has its use cases, as do vinyl records, etc. I am fascinated with old world technology that can still hold its own in modern society and is some ways the best of the best. Timber framing is a good example of ancient technology that is still very cutting edge and practical. It can be blended with modern engineering and material to build some pretty cool structures that will last a very long time.

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Im in my mid 30s and have some friends in their late 40s and the technology gap is massive IMO. Its only a 10-12 year age difference and Ive tried understand but its there. I think its because stuff that was coming around when I was in college, and they were already in the work force and they had kids.

The thing that kills me is in the workplace. Some of these old guys are so slow to get things done because they just dont have the skills. They get hit with it on their reviews and will pout about it (sales guys are the worst).
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I see admitting we live in the past is a big obstacle for many😊
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A large part of it is about being resistant to change and mentally lazy.

My dad was a dirt digger. Blue collar worker, never worked in an office, and didn't have a high school diploma. He wouldn't be categorized and "book smart", but he did indeed like to read books. When he retired, I set him and my mom up each with their own PC, cheap ones I had rebuilt from parts. I showed them how to do some basic stuff. Two weeks later I go back to their house, and he's got a bookmark to the local library on his desktop, and a word document with his library info on it. He was excited when he figured out that he could browse books and reserve them right from home, and then go down to the library and pick them up when they were in. He embraced technology right away, and started figuring things out.

Mom, on the other hand, was far more resistant. She would only do the one thing I showed her (email) and wouldn't venture out at all. So it's not always an age thing. There are some people who become mentally lazy at age 40, and others who are curious in their 70's.

And by the way, I actually spent the time to figure out how to set the time and record on old VCR's! It was less than optimal, but if you were willing to read the manual and concentrate, you could do it.
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Originally Posted by WPBTH View Post
Im in my mid 30s and have some friends in their late 40s and the technology gap is massive IMO. Its only a 10-12 year age difference and Ive tried understand but its there. I think its because stuff that was coming around when I was in college, and they were already in the work force and they had kids.

The thing that kills me is in the workplace. Some of these old guys are so slow to get things done because they just dont have the skills. They get hit with it on their reviews and will pout about it (sales guys are the worst).
Just my experience with sales guys it isn't as much an age thing as it is a downright hatred of data entry into CRM systems. Especially if taken to the extreme and there is a demand to log every phone call or email. Add in half of them are clunky to navigate from the road without firing up a laptop, and it's a real point of contention, particularly for solid sales guys that are accustomed to managing their own time & customer book very effectively through other means.

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