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Old 12-08-2019, 10:04 PM
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Default NOS advice.

Everyone happy now.....I was hoping the thread would go away but now I undeleted it. Caution.....I may not listen to your advice.

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Old 12-08-2019, 10:15 PM
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Not sure if he can talk to an LS3 but this guy has some experience with nitrous. If I remember correctly, you need some heavy duty internals:

Injuneer (Fred) at the CamaroZ28.com forum
Old 12-09-2019, 04:51 AM
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No offense, but there is no such thing as idiot proof N2O

I thought you claimed your car stock was already McLaren fast 7 sec to 100mph? How much faster (in ur mind) do you want to go?

Seriously if you don't wrench your own car, or have gobs of throw away money- don't mod just buy a faster car. Of which there are lots.
And you mentioned country roads, which is not a camaros forte either. Spend money on brakes and suspension parts if you want to attack the twisties. You don't need more hp for that, need better skill and control bits- bushings, sway, shocks, brakes, etc

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Old 12-09-2019, 04:56 AM
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I would think nitrous is asking for trouble on a stock engine How much horse power will that 6 speed and rear take ?
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You're asking for trouble. Have you looked at an STS turbo? They're fairly cheap.
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Whatever you do Russ, for all of us on THT, please video the first time you punch it on your back country road! Destined to be epic!
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^^^ Haha. With the floor mats sliding around on the plastic that he didn’t remove From the carpet? Should be a one way ticket to the trees.
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If it was my car, I'd put more cam in, upgrade the trunion bearings in the rockers, long tube headers and a custom dyno tune to match.
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Originally Posted by tcontic View Post
Whatever you do Russ, for all of us on THT, please video the first time you punch it on your back country road! Destined to be epic!
^^^This. That video will be priceless.

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Originally Posted by CruiseToFish View Post
If it was my car, I'd put more cam in, upgrade the trunion bearings in the rockers, long tube headers and a custom dyno tune to match.
when you compare how much bang for your buck, the nitro is the winner! notice i did not say better option, i said bang for buck!
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I have been this route and if I had it to do over again I would go with a supercharger. When all was said and done it was not that far off on the price. To do the nitrous correctly and have it really useful you need not only a programmer to retard timing and include failsafes in the event of fuel, missed shifts and over reving and or timing issues but also bottle warmers, remote bottle openers, purge valves, switches, dual bottles, dyno tune etc. When I built my Z06 I went with AFR heads, new cam etc specifically for a nitrous car. If I had done so for a supercharger car that would have been close to the same price also. It ran in the 10s on drag radials but I would have enjoyed the car more with full time supercharger power. Nitrous really only works well at wide open throttle and with a six speed car you have to make sure it is set up to where missed shifts etc. don’t blow the motor up. It is not as easy as shooting in nitrous and adding more fuel. It comes on like a gang buster and makes traction control challenging but in the end having boost throughout a wider range would be more fun and easier to control in my humble opinion.

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Old 12-09-2019, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Rolandt03 View Post
when you compare how much bang for your buck, the nitro is the winner! notice i did not say better option, i said bang for buck!
Emphasis on the BANG!
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I used nitrous extensively in my street racing days in south Tampa with mixed success. The learning curve was expensive but after a few motors I found where the boundaries of use met destruction and was able to walk that line. Not many cars back then had superchargers and even fewer with turbos but the ones that did also struggled maintaining AFRs and nuked motors at the same rate.

For a fun car with a stock motor, adding nitrous will only be fun a couple of times before all the deficient components will be identified. This will start an endless stream of spending in pursuit of building for the addiction of giggle gas use that in the end always leads to spending more in hopes of making use sustainable.... which will never happen. I would go with the advice of a few bolt on mods at the recommendations of a good, local tune shop that has experience with your set up. They will be able to tell you what you will get and how much it will cost you. Beyond that a turbo or Pro Charger will definitely scratch the itch but you will be looking at substantial engine and drivetrain mods.

If your dead set on slapping a nitrous kit on it as is, be sure to take video of your experiments. The first time you press the button is epic and more exhilarating than you can imagine. When something does come loose (and it will) you will then experience the low and despair of self induced destruction. Have a couple cans of whip cream ready cause you will need a giggle when it happens.

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If you do nitrous consider putting a rev limited in the car as it might help from blowing the engine.
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There are pre engineered setups just for the LS engines.You need to consider all the aspects like window switching for the shifting and other safeguards. There are wet or dry systems. Don't let some newbie put together a system for you,get a all inclusive kit. Get on the LS forums and get educated before buying anything.
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Originally Posted by GaryDoug View Post
Not sure if he can talk to an LS3 but this guy has some experience with nitrous. If I remember correctly, you need some heavy duty internals:

Injuneer (Fred) at the CamaroZ28.com forum
now THAT is a blast from the past.. I haven’t heard that name in years , he had given me advice on building my lt1 f-body probably 10-12 years ago
Old 12-09-2019, 07:07 AM
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Save your money for a turbo/turbos set up.
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Raymonds Performance ? LSX & Suspension Specialist |

These guys are just outside Indy and have been working on LS's for quite a while. Maybe close enough to you to have your work done at reasonable Midwest prices.

Tell them Sidney from NASA/CMC sent you.

Good luck,

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You should just buy one of those Teslas with Ludicrous Speed built in. Sure, people here will rag on you for buying a Tesla but, by now, you should already be used to that.
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If it is one or the other...
Street and track use - SC
Strictly track use - NX

I can't imagine spraying every time you are looking for a little more fun on the street. I would be going through bottles all the time. The supercharger will have that little extra when you want it as well as a lot extra when you want it too. Nitrous is off or on.

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