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Old 12-07-2019, 11:07 AM
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Could be perhaps the dumbest "how to" question ever.

This is a heavy duty hinge holding a spare tire mount across the rear of a truck. Son wants to take it off and just keep the spare in the bed.
Simple Picture: a single hinge with the bolt shown acting as the lynch pin. Want to take the assembly (held on with bolt) off. Nut is off the bottom. No problem.
  • Bolt will just spin.
    • Easily, with fingers
  • Will not be pounded out.
    • 4lb hammer (on nut) - no threads are damaged
  • 3-ton floor jack
    • Trying to "press" the bolt out the top.
    • Jack will lift the entire vehicle. Bolt does not move
  • Bolt does not appear to be bent in any way
  • I've thought . . . hmmm, must be a keyway in there.
    • Made small turns on the nut with taps to drive the bolt up.
    • No success.
What is preventing this bolt from just pulling right out, letting me take the assembly off?

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Could be keyed & only loosen up if mount is swung all the way open or another position so it can't fall off while driving if the nut comes off

Open it up all the way & give it a try
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Whatever it’s threaded into is spinning inside. Can you try turning with wrench while putting pressure up like with pliers or little prybar
Old 12-07-2019, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by loverofshells View Post
Could be keyed & only loosen up if mount is swung all the way open or another position so it can't fall off while driving if the nut comes off

Open it up all the way & give it a try
Good one . . . I have tried that too; but now I'm thinking I need to attempt many different positions.
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How is the tire mount "mounted" ?

A pic from a little further away would help
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Originally Posted by rocksandblues View Post
Whatever it’s threaded into is spinning inside. Can you try turning with wrench while putting pressure up like with pliers or little prybar
That was my first thought: spinning on a polyurethane bushing. I spun it with pressure from the floor jack . . . no joy.
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Originally Posted by loverofshells View Post
How is the tire mount "mounted" ?

A pic from a little further away would help
Stand bye. Another pic on the way.
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Can’t you remove the whole assembly? Why would you want the bracket still hanging there? What make/model is the bracket? Check their website for a manual?
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Here's the back. Hinge (only one) is lower right.


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Tough one .
Favorite thread title of the year though .
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Originally Posted by KIMDer View Post
Can’t you remove the whole assembly? Why would you want the bracket still hanging there? What make/model is the bracket? Check their website for a manual?
The spare tire "gate" is its own assembly. It's attached to a broader assembly of rock crawler frame. It's a great setup, but the kid doesn't want all the stuff hanging off the back; I don't blame him.
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Originally Posted by SalmonDaze View Post
That was my first thought: spinning on a polyurethane bushing. I spun it with pressure from the floor jack . . . no joy.
my .02 is what ever bushing it’s threaded into is spinning. Understood on the pressure. It must be fused or corroded together

drill a hole into the side and try to “pin” the bushing then unscrew?? Maybe
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if you do not care about the hinge anymore drill a hole where the circle is and see if you can stick something in there to hold what might be inside there that the bolt is threaded into them unscrew the bolt



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Muffler gun it out
if you have one like mine

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I'm with Insider, drill a 1/2" hole and see what's inside.
If no joy fire up the torch.
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Originally Posted by Lprizman View Post
Muffler gun it out
if you have one like mine
Was thinking if it can't be pushed up put the nut back on and try and bring it back down to break it free.
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Cut thru bushing and bolt just inside either side inside of the "C" bracket with a 5" cutoff wheel. Entire assembly can be reassembled later with a new bushing and bolt.
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Originally Posted by jwb View Post
Cut thru bushing and bolt just inside either side inside of the "C" bracket with a 5" cutoff wheel. Entire assembly can be reassembled later with a new bushing and bolt.
Angle grinder is ready to go. And this is where things are headed. Stand by.
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Job for the win.
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Put the jack under the bolt, jack it up, put a socket or piece of pipe over the head of the bolt and pound it down.

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