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Old 12-05-2019, 08:10 AM
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Car #1 is turning left onto a TWO lane road. Car #2 is coming from the opposite direction and turning right onto the same two lane road. Both have regular green lights. There are no green arrows in either direction.

Edit: this intersection usually has multiple cars in line to turn left and to turn right. Not necessarily one car in each direction.

Should:

1. Car #1 yield to Car #2 and not attempt to turn left until after Car #2 has completed its right turn?

2. Car #2 yield to Car #1 and not attempt to turn right until after Car #1 has completed its left turn?

3. Both cars turn simultaneously with Car#1 occupying the left lane of the two lane road and Car #2 occupying the right lane of the two lane road?

I drive through an intersection like this everyday and see all three scenarios happen often. Curious if we agree on the proper way to proceed.
Old 12-05-2019, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by The Whale View Post
Car #1 is turning left onto a TWO lane road. Car #2 is coming from the opposite direction and turning right onto the same two lane road. Both have regular green lights. There are no green arrows in either direction.

Should:

1. Car #1 yield to Car #2 and not attempt to turn left until after Car #2 has completed its right turn?

2. Car #2 yield to Car #1 and not attempt to turn right until after Car #1 has completed its left turn?

3. Both cars turn simultaneously with Car#1 occupying the left lane of the two lane road and Car #2 occupying the right lane of the two lane road?

I drive through an intersection like this everyday and see all three scenarios happen often. Curious if we agree on the proper way to proceed.
Either it's a 4 lane road or in option 3 car 1 is on the wrong side.

So basing the answer on that it's a 4 lane road, option 1 is the polite way, and I think option 3 is the legal answer. I got pulled over once where I was car 2 and a cop car1, I made the turn wide into the 2nd lane since there were people finishing crossing the road in the close lane. He didn't give me a ticket but said that I should turned into curb lane as he could of been turning to other lane.
Old 12-05-2019, 08:19 AM
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3. The car turning left should hold his lane and not cross over into car 2 lane.
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Car #1 yield to Car #2 and not attempt to turn left until after Car #2 has completed its right turn?
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Does car #2 have a yield sign?
Old 12-05-2019, 08:21 AM
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I always thought Option 1 to be correct in this situation.
Old 12-05-2019, 08:22 AM
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Exactly what post #2 said.

However if someone wants to be polite it would be driver in car #1.
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Car 1 should not start their turn until car 2 has started theirs. Car 2 should maintain lane presence in the right lane through the turn, and car 1 should maintain presence in the left lane through their turn. Once the turns are complete they can change lanes as needed.

They should not turn simultaneously, as doing so would mean that car # 1 did not wait for car # 2 to commit to the turn, and regardless of the speed/signals shown by car # 2, could find themselves being hit in the passenger side door by them.
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If your having trouble with this I’d find a different route.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
Car 1 should not start their turn until car 2 has started theirs. Car 2 should maintain lane presence in the right lane through the turn, and car 1 should maintain presence in the left lane through their turn. Once the turns are complete they can change lanes as needed.

They should not turn simultaneously, as doing so would mean that car # 1 did not wait for car # 2 to commit to the turn, and regardless of the speed/signals shown by car # 2, could find themselves being hit in the passenger side door by them.
Or a phantom motorcycle with loud pipes could cause everyone to wreck.
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Car 1 has to cut across lane(s) of oncoming traffic, and thus should yield.
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It is my understanding that when both vehicles approaching from opposite directions have a circular green the left turning vehicle is duty bound to yield right of way.

I run into a similar situation to the OP every day. I have attached a street view from my perspective.

I am going to take a right onto the interstate/elevated road on ramp. If I give a turn signal, 75% of the time left turning vehicles will pull right out in front of me. I solved that problem by not giving a turn signal.

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.9401...7i16384!8i8192
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
Car 1 should not start their turn until car 2 has started theirs. Car 2 should maintain lane presence in the right lane through the turn, and car 1 should maintain presence in the left lane through their turn. Once the turns are complete they can change lanes as needed.

They should not turn simultaneously, as doing so would mean that car # 1 did not wait for car # 2 to commit to the turn, and regardless of the speed/signals shown by car # 2, could find themselves being hit in the passenger side door by them.
If you make a proper turn from the right stay in your lane and I make a left turn and stay in my lane how can we hit?
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get a RAV4 with a tow package and assert your dominance over the other drivers, forcing them to yield to your will.
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Did all of you guys get your driver's license from Sears.
The turn must by law end in the lane corresponding to the lane it started in, ie: right lane to right line, left lane to left land, does not matter who started first or who is on second.
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Originally Posted by ericinmich View Post
Either it's a 4 lane road or in option 3 car 1 is on the wrong side.

So basing the answer on that it's a 4 lane road, option 1 is the polite way, and I think option 3 is the legal answer. I got pulled over once where I was car 2 and a cop car1, I made the turn wide into the 2nd lane since there were people finishing crossing the road in the close lane. He didn't give me a ticket but said that I should turned into curb lane as he could of been turning to other lane.
Absent any other signage #1 is not only polite but the legal way to do it. Left turners must yield and allow all oncoming traffic to clear the intersection or turn right before proceeding. The thing that makes this confusing is in some situations (like on the approach to a right turn onto a freeway ramp) the channelized right turns will be signed to stop or yield to the left turner. Unless it is specifically signed/channelized/striped/signalized to do so, you should never have a combination of straight thru traffic and/or left turners and/or right turners going into a receiving roadway simultaneously. Highway Engineer for 40 years.
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Originally Posted by YFMF View Post
If you make a proper turn from the right stay in your lane and I make a left turn and stay in my lane how can we hit?
In an ideal world that's the way it would work out. In reality, it's not likely both drivers will give a turn signal. If both are giving turn signals the prudent left turning driver would operate with concern that the right turning driver isn't just another texting driver who forgot to cancel his turn signal or a driver who is early signaling a turn just beyond the intersection.

Guess how it will work out if the right signalling driver goes straight and there's a collision?
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Originally Posted by YFMF View Post
If you make a proper turn from the right stay in your lane and I make a left turn and stay in my lane how can we hit?
You can't.....in a perfect world. Until the driver making the right turn commits though, you don't know if their signaled intentions are valid. There is no need to wait for them to complete their turn, but you do need to wait for them to commit to it.
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Car #2 should have the right of way if both get there at the same time; car #1 has to cross his lane to make the turn.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
You can't.....in a perfect world. Until the driver making the right turn commits though, you don't know if their signaled intentions are valid. There is no need to wait for them to complete their turn, but you do need to wait for them to commit to it.
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