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Old 11-13-2019, 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by nole76 View Post
You should google the Orlando PD pension and get the facts. It is not full pay. Don't mean to pick on you, but there is a fair amount of hearsay and misinformation in this entire thread.
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Old 11-13-2019, 04:12 AM
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The absolute worse part of it. They destroy their cesspool-States and then come to Florida and destroy it too. With all the laws and regulation, why can't they be forced to stay and soak in the sewerage that they created. Why come here???
Where are you from?
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Old 11-13-2019, 04:13 AM
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What state were you born in?
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Old 11-13-2019, 04:13 AM
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My pension dried up. I sleep on the street - sometimes a bus depot when they let me. Eat 1/2 eaten hamburgers and fries at MacDonalds. Lost my shoes so I wrap my feet in cardboard when it's cold. Poor, poor pitiful me. You guys send money.
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Old 11-13-2019, 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by SHE GONE View Post
Where are you from?
I spent the first 40 years of my life in New Jersey... I say as I vomit in my mouth over the money I wasted living there...
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Old 11-13-2019, 04:19 AM
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And to top it off they sell their 1800 sq ft NJ home and move to places like Va and buy a 3500 sq ft home and put money in their pocket. They then live in Va and NJ looses a pension receiving resident now paying taxes to another state. What could go wrong with that.
You forgot the part where they complain about the taxes in NJ and then brag about "how good they live in VA"... don't forget that part.

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Old 11-13-2019, 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Brezinup View Post
The LIRR has always been known for the place to work for the pension. Not sure if anything has changed. The cost for a commuter ticket reflects that. Also the police unions have a pension after 20 years based on a high 3 year average. They are allowed as much overtime as they want nearing retirement and many will pension out at full pay. Considering now a graduate degree is required and they start working at 22, they could start collecting at 42. And these cops are making $150K plus.
Don't even get me started on teachers and their salaries and pensions.
Do you have any teachers in your family? I do, my daughter has a masters degree, $150,000 in college loans and makes $60,000 a year. Teaches kids with a multitude of problems including dysfunctional home life but she is very dedicated. Her school district has no money for books or paper so who do you think pays for many of those supplies? And, if you think they arrive at school at 9:00 A.M. and go home at 3:00 P.M., think again, I witness first hand the amount of work and responsibility she has both in school, after school and at home not to mention that she has to work 2 other jobs to make ends meet... My point, try not to lump every person in every profession together... The grass isn't always greener and it's a myopic view when people and/or professions are broad-brushed...
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Old 11-13-2019, 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by OldPete View Post
I spent the first 40 years of my life in New Jersey... I say as I vomit in my mouth over the money I wasted living there...
So, according to your logic, you should've stayed there instead of leaving the "cesspool" and moving here to ruin our state.
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Old 11-13-2019, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by fishingfun View Post
And to top it off they sell their 1800 sq ft NJ home and move to places like Va and buy a 3500 sq ft home and put money in their pocket. They then live in Va and NJ looses a pension receiving resident now paying taxes to another state. What could go wrong with that.
That is less of a problem in New York - municipal pensions are state and local income tax free.
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Old 11-13-2019, 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by SHE GONE View Post
So, according to your logic, you should've stayed there instead of leaving the "cesspool" and moving here to ruin our state.
Huh? I have never collect a cent in NJ pension. Why would I "have" to stay? Poor thing... your logic skill-set is pathetic.
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Old 11-13-2019, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jbacc View Post
Do you have any teachers in your family? I do, my daughter has a masters degree, $150,000 in college loans and makes $60,000 a year. Teaches kids with a multitude of problems including dysfunctional home life but she is very dedicated. Her school district has no money for books or paper so who do you think pays for many of those supplies? And, if you think they arrive at school at 9:00 A.M. and go home at 3:00 P.M., think again, I witness first hand the amount of work and responsibility she has both in school, after school and at home not to mention that she has to work 2 other jobs to make ends meet... My point, try not to lump every person in every profession together... The grass isn't always greener and it's a myopic view when people and/or professions are broad-brushed...
I was speaking specifically on Long Island. In Jacksonville they are underpaid as well as many other areas across the state and country.
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Old 11-13-2019, 06:32 AM
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Over the years many, many THT posters rag on those living in NY/NJ/MA for being idiots living in crowded conditions with bad weather, high taxes, expensive real estate and liberal populations.

But if you can get a good job with a good pension in those areas, you can afford the real estate. You put up with the rat race until it is time to retire when you sell your real estate, pocket two thirds of the sale price of that real estate and spend the other third on a nice house in a cheaper location with a very nice pension and a big bank account. Then you live like a king while all the while being able to tell the local folks in your new location about the right way to do things.
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Originally Posted by Brezinup View Post
I was speaking specifically on Long Island. In Jacksonville they are underpaid as well as many other areas across the state and country.
Thank you for clarifying...
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To each his own, wherever you decide to plant roots is a compromise... If someone knows the location of Shangri-La, please, please share it..... Me, I want to live near my family regardless of the climate and the cost.... I see so many people pull up stakes and move because they want a cheaper cost of living and then complain that they never see their friends and family. Everything has a cost, pick your poison and do what works best for you.
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Originally Posted by SeaJay View Post
Over the years many, many THT posters rag on those living in NY/NJ/MA for being idiots living in crowded conditions with bad weather, high taxes, expensive real estate and liberal populations.

But if you can get a good job with a good pension in those areas, you can afford the real estate. You put up with the rat race until it is time to retire when you sell your real estate, pocket two thirds of the sale price of that real estate and spend the other third on a nice house in a cheaper location with a very nice pension and a big bank account. Then you live like a king while all the while being able to tell the local folks in your new location about the right way to do things.
Agreed. That is the game plan. Sadly it ends up ruining these cheaper locations by splashing the pot with big bank accounts and golden pension dollars. It is now more difficult for the average Joe in these cheaper states to compete for prime real estate when you are going up against someone with crazy resources. It also hurts us living in these banana states with these killer pension because the people take the money and run. I am concerned for the world that we leave for our children up here. One day we will have to pay the piper.
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Speaking of Public Sector only - If your job involves getting shot at or climbing on burning roofs you deserve a good pension - everyone should be on the 401K roller coaster like everybody else.
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You guys are doing this backwards. I know guys with the NY, NJ pensions down here in FL. They gave the best years of their life for those jobs. . Ill move up there when Im 60 and give them the years where I need a good health plan and am too old to really enjoy life.
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Old 11-13-2019, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by WPBTH View Post
You guys are doing this backwards. I know guys with the NY, NJ pensions down here in FL. They gave the best years of their life for those jobs. . Ill move up there when Im 60 and give them the years where I need a good health plan and am too old to really enjoy life.
LOL, good point :-)
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Old 11-13-2019, 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by OldPete View Post
Huh? I have never collect a cent in NJ pension. Why would I "have" to stay? Poor thing... your logic skill-set is pathetic.
Oh, only the people that collect nj/ny pensions are ruining this state, makes complete sense now.
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Old 11-13-2019, 09:50 AM
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I work in the right to work state of florida. I don't have a pension and i don't make much money but bygod i got a job. can't wait til i retire and go on welfare.
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