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Old 11-10-2019, 12:21 PM
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I just made a clamato and Modelo with some chili lime seasoning. Tastes damn good on a hot day.
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Originally Posted by 38P6 View Post
I just made a clamato and Modelo with some chili lime seasoning. Tastes damn good on a hot day.
next time save the runoff from the fish cleaning table and mix that in too. Much more authentic seafood flavor.
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they serve fresh oyster stout at a local oyster festival here. believe it or not, it's good. Like Guinness but with a kind of smokey flavor.
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next time save the runoff from the fish cleaning table and mix that in too. Much more authentic seafood flavor.
It was so damn good I had 2.
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Florida has some of the worst oysters in the country. Can't imagine that shit with beer.
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Florida has some of the worst oysters in the country. Can't imagine that shit with beer.
I will disagree. Appalachicola oysters are some of the best oysters Iíve ever had.
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I will disagree. Appalachicola oysters are some of the best oysters Iíve ever had.
Don't bother. There are a couple/few whispy twisters that like to put down FL oysters whilst dancing about in their high heels and extolling the virtues of their local mollusks. Let them be gay.
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Anchor Steam makes a fine beer. Not a fan of the new over malted/ hopped beer. Any recs for nice bitter beer?
​​​​​​Green Man ESB (Extra Special Bitter). An American take on an English ESB. Based out of Asheville NC. I can routinely fine Green Man IPA and Porter (both excellent) in Florida but the ESB is harder to find. Well worth it though.

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I will disagree. Appalachicola oysters are some of the best oysters I’ve ever had.
Apalachicola provided the best oysters I've ever eaten. And I spent years in the middle peninsulas of the Chesapeake Bay, supposedly oyster heaven.
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Old 11-10-2019, 10:30 PM
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Craft beer often highlights traditional styles, particularly ones from Europe like German marzens, Belgian Abbey style ales, etc.

A lot of American Macro Beer is not traditional at all, really, since itís often brewed with rice.
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Originally Posted by N2theblue View Post
Craft beer often highlights traditional styles, particularly ones from Europe like German marzens, Belgian Abbey style ales, etc.

A lot of American Macro Beer is not traditional at all, really, since itís often brewed with rice.
sorta. The origins of using rice were out of necessity, but brewed by some really talented brewers with family lineage to Europe. Especially given their lack of access to refrigeration. Rice was a necessary substitute for a portion of the grain bill just due to availability. Out of all the styles to brew, American lagers are the hardest to execute
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post


sorta. The origins of using rice were out of necessity, but brewed by some really talented brewers with family lineage to Europe. Especially given their lack of access to refrigeration. Rice was a necessary substitute for a portion of the grain bill just due to availability. Out of all the styles to brew, American lagers are the hardest to execute
Agreed on that, lighter beers are always harder to execute well because there are no strong flavors to overpower imperfections, and the consistency of product the big macro brewers can put out is astounding. Their brewmasters are super skilled. But folks claiming craft beers arenít traditional are ignorant. IPAs, for example, were developed during the British occupation of India because the hops acted as a preservative during the sea voyage.
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I love some of the asshats on this site think that real beer is Miller or bud or coors light and that craft brew is some new millennial thing. Traditionally beer tasted much like the craft brews now and nothing at all like Miller lite. If anything we are getting back to what real beer actually tastes like. The ďrealĒ beer that some of you clowns are talking about is Americanized, watered down, mass produced shit that they donít drink anywhere else but here.
Tell that to the Belgians Stella Artois has been brewing since 1300ís or some shit, itís an easy to drink beer flavored beer. No 120min spruce tree and fig bowel drop ipa, that these millennials love.
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Originally Posted by gofastsandman View Post
Anchor Steam makes a fine beer. Not a fan of the new over malted/ hopped beer. Any recs for nice bitter beer?
sour beers and gender fluidity are all the rage in Boston right now, I believe the brewery of choice for our millennial friends is trillium, the beer tastes a bit like bile and the establishment is a mix of communist nuclear fallout bunker and a prison, the staff is very unfriendly and a beer is like $13. You should check it out!!
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Tell that to the Belgians Stella Artois has been brewing since 1300ís or some shit, itís an easy to drink beer flavored beer. No 120min spruce tree and fig bowel drop ipa, that these millennials love.
Stella artois was first brewed in the 1920s and the beer really tastes nothing like an American light lager. Belgian beers brewed long ago are also nothing like today's american lights lagers but they are a very similiar to today's "craft" Belgian beers.
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Originally Posted by OurSomeday View Post
​​​​​​Green Man ESB (Extra Special Bitter). An American take on an English ESB. Based out of Asheville NC. I can routinely fine Green Man IPA and Porter (both excellent) in Florida but the ESB is harder to find. Well worth it though.



Apalachicola provided the best oysters I've ever eaten. And I spent years in the middle peninsulas of the Chesapeake Bay, supposedly oyster heaven.
Let you know how I like them. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Rival1 View Post


sour beers and gender fluidity are all the rage in Boston right now, I believe the brewery of choice for our millennial friends is trillium, the beer tastes a bit like bile and the establishment is a mix of communist nuclear fallout bunker and a prison, the staff is very unfriendly and a beer is like $13. You should check it out!!
I`m glad I wasn`t born 20 years later. I should be checking out just in time.
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Originally Posted by bone-a-fide View Post
I love some of the asshats on this site think that real beer is Miller or bud or coors light and that craft brew is some new millennial thing. Traditionally beer tasted much like the craft brews now and nothing at all like Miller lite. If anything we are getting back to what real beer actually tastes like. The “real” beer that some of you clowns are talking about is Americanized, watered down, mass produced shit that they don’t drink anywhere else but here.

Ahhhhh yes, the old wine snobs are the new beer snobs, fun bunch.

Waiting with your buddies for your local tap house to come out with their next apricot infused, butthole encrusted, aged in ancient scat barrels IPA?

Thanks but I’ll stick with Bourbon.
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As they say, Coors light is like sex in a canoe, ****ing close to water. I cannot stand that light crap, haven't drank crap beer since college. It's more of the ridiculous flavors, and gimmicks used by some of these micros. Just make a beer, dark, pale, black whatever just leave the coriander and rose petals out of mine. One of my favorite beers is a dunkel made by a local mb.
This is my issue as well. "Craft beer" to me should be a really well done simple beer. 4 ingredients - water, hops, grain and yeast. Small batches done to perfection by a craftsman. Once fruit, flowers, spices and other gimmicky flavors are added the brewer has jumped the shark and is appealing to non-beer drinkers. Which is fine. I am not going to tell anyone what to drink, but don't call a raspberry orchid monkey semen triple bock session IPA a beer. Call it what it is, flavored malt brewed alcoholic drink.

As for traditions and IPA's it is my understanding the only reason India Pale Ales were produced was out of necessity. To keep them from spoiling to soon when traveling. If real beer could have been shipped and stored for as long of periods of time no IPA would have been produced. It is a compromise of a beer.
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Every Stella Artois I've ever tried was skunked and gross.
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Originally Posted by gofastsandman View Post
Let you know how I like them. Thanks.
I'll send you some Green Man ESB (about 10 minutes from my house) if you'll send me some Big Top Key Lime Wheat! Send me a PM!
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