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Mother in Law takes a head on hit in police chase

Old 11-01-2019, 08:36 PM
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Default Mother in Law takes a head on hit in police chase

Police were pursuing lady with Felony warrants. She was driving erratic they tried to toss out spike strips. She swerved to get around them and hit her head on. This happened on a 2 lane road in Altha shortly after school let out. Thankfully she walked away from it with minor bruises but was sent to Tallahassee hospital for observation. The local officer told me the lady was doing about 85mph when she hiit her, Lady had Felony warrants, no Drivers License, no insurance, was under influence of meth, had drugs in car.
Mother in Law was in a Lincoln Navigator. Was tossed back 40' and spun around, Other was a midsize SUV ended upside down in a ditch.
Not to cast blame or disrespect on the PD's that were pursuing but why continue a high speed chase into a small town where kids and folks are out and about. They knew who she was why not call it off for safety and apprehend another day.






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Damn, glad to hear she walked away
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Old 11-01-2019, 08:39 PM
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As the population grows, these incidents will be on the rise too. No reason EVER to own tiny cars for loved ones to travel in. Heavy is better...PERIOD.

Glad she's ok.

I want cops to catch bad people. That's what my tax dollars are for.
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Old 11-01-2019, 08:47 PM
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Glad she is OK, looks like the truck did well. I'm going to say that the other drive wasn't going 85 at the time of impact... luckily.

Tough call on when to not chase. If she's on meth and already on the run, nobody is safe at that point.

Reason number #1 we (wife, kids, me) say who cares about FE and get large vehicles.
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Old 11-01-2019, 08:50 PM
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Yes, we all want to have huge cars. like in the 60's. Anyone who has driven a while knows that heavier is not usually better. Just ask me who tried to take an unexpected hairpin curve in a 4000lb 1965 Chrysler. Car went where it wanted, not where I wanted it to go. I sold the wreckage and bought a 2400 lb sports car, took turns like on a rail. Now if everyone had a tiny car, they would drive safer and create less carnage, wouldn't they.
I want cops to catch bad people too, but sometimes the pursuer is the guilty one.
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Old 11-01-2019, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by GaryDoug View Post
Yes, we all want to have huge cars. like in the 60's. Anyone who has driven a while knows that heavier is not usually better. Just ask me who tried to take an unexpected hairpin curve in a 4000lb 1965 Chrysler. Car went where it wanted, not where I wanted it to go. I sold the wreckage and bought a 2400 lb sports car, took turns like on a rail. Now if everyone had a tiny car, they would drive safer and create less carnage, wouldn't they.
I want cops to catch bad people too, but sometimes the pursuer is the guilty one.
Thats kinda bull shit there. A TON of improvements to cars has occurred in 60 YEARS! Have you ever worked in on an ambulance crew.....since the 60 years has passed?
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Old 11-01-2019, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by GaryDoug View Post
Yes, we all want to have huge cars. like in the 60's. Anyone who has driven a while knows that heavier is not usually better. Just ask me who tried to take an unexpected hairpin curve in a 4000lb 1965 Chrysler. Car went where it wanted, not where I wanted it to go. I sold the wreckage and bought a 2400 lb sports car, took turns like on a rail. Now if everyone had a tiny car, they would drive safer and create less carnage, wouldn't they.
I want cops to catch bad people too, but sometimes the pursuer is the guilty one.
You are comparing a 50 year old huge car vs. modern sports car. I'd take a modern huge car/truck vs a modern sports car in any accident like what the OP wrote (ie. shit hits you out of nowhere). Remember the "star" ratings on crash tests are based on like sized vehicles. A 5 star in a mini or miata or boxter doesn't mean shit...
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Old 11-01-2019, 09:00 PM
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There’s no road in Altha I’d go anywhere near that speed, small town roads.
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Glad your MIL made it out okay. Not that I am concerned for the other driver, but did she survive the wreck?

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Old 11-01-2019, 09:05 PM
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This sounds like a "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation for the police. If they called off the chase and the meth-head hit a kid, they're crucified. Luckily your MIL is ok. Wish they had stronger means of restitution for cases like this. Sell her to the highest bidder to work off her debt to your MIL.
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Originally Posted by ericinmich View Post
You are comparing a 50 year old huge car vs. modern sports car..
What???? I scrapped the 1965 Chrysler for a 1961 Mercedes. How is that old versus new? Get your facts in a row first. There may be nothing you can do to protect you after being hit by a 20 ton semi. But there is something you can do to possibly avoid that. Your 6000 lb SUV won't stand a chance....either way.

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Old 11-01-2019, 09:18 PM
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All I heard was the other driver had dislocated or broken shoulder and banged up. She went to Tallahassee hospital too. Don't know much about her other than she is 29. MiL is in pretty good spirits about it other than having to buy a new vehicle since lady has no insurance. That Navigator is completely twisted. It saved her life for sure.
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Originally Posted by Tread_Head57 View Post
If they called off the chase and the meth-head hit a kid, they're crucified..
Do we have documented instances of that kind of thing? If so, why not post a link.

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Originally Posted by CME View Post
Thats kinda bull shit there. A TON of improvements to cars has occurred in 60 YEARS! Have you ever worked in on an ambulance crew.....since the 60 years has passed?
What 60 years? What are you taking about? I drove a big Ford rental car about 6 months ago that practically refused to go around corners. I rented a 2018 SUV last year and noticed the same limitation. A few months ago I rented a pickup truck with the same dismal characteristics. Have you never driven a real car in your dumb life? I see virtually no progress. What I do see is an effort to maximize the big car owner's impact on the rest of us. I am sure you are the same type.
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Originally Posted by GaryDoug View Post
Do we have documented instances of that kind of thing? If so, why not post a link.
We get it, you’re anti-police. Do you have an alert for every time a thread pops up that pertains to law enforcement in any way, you can post something about what they did wrong, or they think they a are seal team. It’s your opinion, and I fully support Freedom of Speech, but dang man, every post has you trashing LEOs. Is your record haunting you that much?
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Originally Posted by cmatthews7 View Post

We get it, you’re anti-police. Do you have an alert for every time a thread pops up that pertains to law enforcement in any way, you can post something about what they did wrong, or they think they a are seal team. It’s your opinion, and I fully support Freedom of Speech, but dang man, every post has you trashing LEOs. Is your record haunting you that much?
I don't trash them. I leave that to the others here. I just agree with them out of experiences. There is a big difference.

So you did not answer my question did you? That's because the answer would be no, wouldn't it?
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Old 11-01-2019, 09:43 PM
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To pursue or not is actually a harder question to answer that people think.

A pursuit in itself is a hazard to the officer, suspect and the public. For this reason, most departments have adopted forcible felony only policies. I agree with this policy, but there are a few things to consider

Just because you stop chasing them, doesn’t mean they stop running. They very often crash even if the officer does not pursue. They tend to be looking over their shoulder trying to figure out if you’re still chasing them while running red lights and stop signs. There are no flashing lights and sirens to warn other people that something out of the ordinary is happening. If they do crash the officer is not on scene immediately to render and call for aid.

People tend to flee more if they think you won’t pursue them which leads to the situation above.

Often, the suspect’s identity is not known during a pursuit. Most of the time it’s not as simple as “ pick them up later.” It may be months, if ever, before the suspect is identified.

in my experience, the best outcome is to get stop sticks under them as soon as possible and end it before it becomes a big thing.

in your case, this may have just played out 5-10 times the same way. Find her, light her up, let her go, go to her house, no answer at the door, rinse and repeat.

Pursuits just aren’t as black and white as people like to make them out to be.
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Glad MIL is ok .

Seems new pick ups maybe safest though I was talking to a flat bed operator and he said BMW's always seem to fair best for the occupants .
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Old 11-01-2019, 09:50 PM
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I know she is being charged among other charges with attempting to hit 1 officer with her car.
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I know she is being charged among other charges with attempting to hit 1 officer with her car.
And there’s your forcible felony. Agg assault with a deadly weapon.
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