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Old 10-29-2019, 10:06 AM
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I know this is going to vary on jurisdiction but I also know most of them to follow similar code so I was wondering what the brain trust thinks. I got a permit for a 14X20 shed, I had the homebuilder pull it and transfer it into my name. Reading the permit I see for some reason the builder when pulling the permit said it would be 10' high

"The initial submittal Plot Plan had the proposed 280 SF , 10' high structure located in the middle of the back yard, with hand-drawn dimensions of 10' from all property lines, and 8.8' from the existing deck attached to the principal structure house."

The issue I am running into is I can make it 10' high with a 3/12 pitch roof but the lawn is not level so if I measure from the ground up at the low end I will be closer to 12'. To make it even more confusing is accessory structures per Raleigh, NC code can be up to 16' if they are over 140sqft and not taller than the primary structure (house) on the property which in my case it would not be, my house is two floors.

I tried calling the city permit office to see what is up but it's an endless phone tree that always results in a voicemail box to leave a message with no return call. I tried to call the builder to see what the deal was but they are useless, now that I bought the house they have moved on.

For all of you building guys what do you think? 10' from the ground or 10' building height or am I good up to 16 feet? One thing I did notice on the permit is they had to notify the surrounding houses, which no one objected.
Old 10-29-2019, 10:15 AM
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Your best option is to visit the permit office.
Old 10-29-2019, 10:18 AM
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I have no idea how that shed got there....
Old 10-29-2019, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by NCSUboater View Post
I have no idea how that shed got there....
Well, considering I live in the hood I doubt anyone will turn me in and if they did it's not like I don't have a permit. I have thought about just finishing it and not calling the inspection in. I did that in Wendell and four years later when I move out I never heard anything about it.
Old 10-29-2019, 10:21 AM
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Lots of misinformation in the general public when it comes to this kind of thing. I was told by a local dealer of shed’s, that my town restricted sheds to 100 sq ft. Turns out there is formula based on building coverage, I could have built as shed/acc building 500+sq ft.

As already mentioned, go talk to the permitting authority.

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Old 10-29-2019, 10:23 AM
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This is going to vary wildly by jurisdiction.

Visit your local zoning office and get the info from them. Preferably in writing.

Sometimes they post it online. Again varies by location.
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All the houses I’ve built, I’ve never seen an inspector even hold a tape measure let alone actually know how to use it. On top of that I’ve only had one actually open up the blueprints and skim them over.

Just build the thing.
Old 10-29-2019, 10:26 AM
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go to the source of truth

that is either the laws/regs or the permitting authority

try emailing them, pressing 0 on phone, call another department and ask for transfer, or go in person

asking on an internet forum is likely not going to get you the right answer
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as long as it is not overly obvious, such as permit says 10ft high and you build a 20ft tall 2 story shed, no one will know the difference! the average person could not eyeball the difference in 10ft vs 12 ft.
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Go visit the zoning office.

Several years ago, we decided to put a second floor over the addition on our house. It would not extend over the original roof line or beyond the current foot print of the house. I used Autocad to make some drawings and went to get a permit. The county engineer looked at my drawings and asked if it was just going up and not out anywhere. I replied, "Yes". He said, "You don't need a permit." Best to ask in person.
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build it 10'
so what if the foundation on the back side is 2 ' higher than the front to make the foundation level, the building is only 10ft tall
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Originally Posted by bakerjw View Post
Go visit the zoning office.
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The problem, there is so much growth in the county and city that getting a hold of someone who knows what they are doing is next to impossible. I asked when I picked up the permit but the folks at the counter were more like clerks and everyone they could as was out in the field. That's my conundrum, I have a permit that says one thing and city guidelines that say another and no one who will call me back or knows what they are talking about.

The code on the city website says the following:
Accessory Structures that are larger than 150 square feet or taller than 10ft must be located a minimum of 10ft from side and rear property lines. The maximum wall height is 12ft and the maximum height is 16ft.
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Originally Posted by Lorne Greene View Post
The problem, there is so much growth in the county and city that getting a hold of someone who knows what they are doing is next to impossible. I asked when I picked up the permit but the folks at the counter were more like clerks and everyone they could as was out in the field. That's my conundrum, I have a permit that says one thing and city guidelines that say another and no one who will call me back or knows what they are talking about.

The code on the city website says the following:
Accessory Structures that are larger than 150 square feet or taller than 10ft must be located a minimum of 10ft from side and rear property lines. The maximum wall height is 12ft and the maximum height is 16ft.
File a revised permit for 16 feet.

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Originally Posted by NCSUboater View Post
I have no idea how that shed got there....
Cleary, Cheryl did.
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Build the damn thing. Shown below is the building height reg for Vero Beach FL.(Not complete). You can believe no inspector in his right mind is going to challenge you unless you're WAY out of bounds.
Sec. 60.15. - Building height measurements.
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=right(a)Rules applicable to measurement of building heights. Except where specifically modified by other provisions of this title, the regulations of this section shall govern the measurement of building heights.=right(b)Starting point for height measurements. The starting point for measurement of any building height shall be whichever is the highest elevation of the following:=right(1)The existing weighted average grade elevation of the property;=right(2)The base flood elevation;=right(3)The base flood elevation plus 18 inches, if located within a coastal high hazard area (V Zone);=right(4)The required Florida Department of Environmental Protection (FDEP) elevation plus 18 inches, if located seaward of the Coastal Construction Control Line; or,=right(5)18 inches above the crown of the nearest adjoining improved road.=right(c)End point for height measurements. The height of buildings shall be measured vertically from the applicable starting point in (b) above to the following:=right(1)The highest point of the building or part thereof for single family and duplex buildings, excluding chimneys.=right(2)The highest point of the building or part thereof for buildings located within a POI or park district, except single family and duplex buildings.=right(3)The highest roof edge of a flat or shed roof or the eave of a gable, hip, gambrel, or mansard roof for all other buildings not listed under subsections (1) and (2) above. [Note: The eave of the roof shall mean the lowest projecting edge of a roof
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when I built my garage the only thing he worried about was taking pictures of everything in my yard. no measurement was taken of anything.

pretty sure it would come down to interpretation of the print. it said 10' so you built it 10' above whichever surface you call out.
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Originally Posted by Lorne Greene View Post
Well, considering I live in the hood I doubt anyone will turn me in and if they did it's not like I don't have a permit. I have thought about just finishing it and not calling the inspection in. I did that in Wendell and four years later when I move out I never heard anything about it.
I would take it to the building department and get it changed.
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It's going to be different everwhere, but in your locality does the shed require stamped plans? That's a big one if your plans from the homebuilder show 10'. Does it require inspection(s)?
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I get clarification first. I saw where a city in our area made a guy tear down a nice shed that was built on a slab because its was a foot to close to his neighbors property.
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Originally Posted by airbrush View Post
Build the damn thing. Shown below is the building height reg for Vero Beach FL.(Not complete). You can believe no inspector in his right mind is going to challenge you unless you're WAY out of bounds.
Sec. 60.15. - Building height measurements.=centerShare Link to section =centerPrint section =centerDownload (Docx) of sections =centerEmail section =centerCompare versions
=right(a)Rules applicable to measurement of building heights. Except where specifically modified by other provisions of this title, the regulations of this section shall govern the measurement of building heights.=right(b)Starting point for height measurements. The starting point for measurement of any building height shall be whichever is the highest elevation of the following:=right(1)The existing weighted average grade elevation of the property;=right(2)The base flood elevation;=right(3)The base flood elevation plus 18 inches, if located within a coastal high hazard area (V Zone);=right(4)The required Florida Department of Environmental Protection (FDEP) elevation plus 18 inches, if located seaward of the Coastal Construction Control Line; or,=right(5)18 inches above the crown of the nearest adjoining improved road.=right(c)End point for height measurements. The height of buildings shall be measured vertically from the applicable starting point in (b) above to the following:=right(1)The highest point of the building or part thereof for single family and duplex buildings, excluding chimneys.=right(2)The highest point of the building or part thereof for buildings located within a POI or park district, except single family and duplex buildings.=right(3)The highest roof edge of a flat or shed roof or the eave of a gable, hip, gambrel, or mansard roof for all other buildings not listed under subsections (1) and (2) above. [Note: The eave of the roof shall mean the lowest projecting edge of a roof
Too complex for my beer addled brain, but "roof height" is 1/2 the distance between the eave and the peak.

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