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dzlnut 10-21-2019 05:18 PM

OUPV INLAND TO TO OUPV NEAR COASTAL Captains license question
 
Is additional testing required for a holder of a OUPV inland license who wants to upgrade to the OUPV near coastal license?

I cant seem to get a clear answer from the CG or the private companies that offer the captain training courses

t84a 10-21-2019 05:20 PM

I believe the training and test are the same. The area you're licensed in is based on your hours.

dzlnut 10-21-2019 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by t84a (Post 13040466)
I believe the training and test are the same. The area you're licensed in is based on your hours.


that's what my understanding is as well, its the sea service that you have that allows you to upgrade to a near coastal credential not an additional test

Craash420 10-22-2019 05:31 AM


Originally Posted by t84a (Post 13040466)
I believe the training and test are the same. The area you're licensed in is based on your hours.


Originally Posted by dzlnut (Post 13040481)
that's what my understanding is as well, its the sea service that you have that allows you to upgrade to a near coastal credential not an additional test

Unless things have changed in the last 7 years this is correct, the Master or towing certifications required additional classes and testing but the OUPV level is based on the sea time.

dzlnut 10-22-2019 09:35 AM

I hope things haven't changed but the other mariner's training company responded via email and said yes it is required but didn't elaborate they might just be trying to get money ;?

Salmonbum 10-22-2019 12:10 PM

I just did this. Back when I got my OUPV, Great Lakes time was considered inland and my license was labeled "Great Lakes and Inland". A few yrs ago they changed GL time to now be near coastal. I renewed in 2018 and asked to be upgraded to Near Coastal. They sent me letter that I just had to retest rules of the road within a yr. I responded by asking if I could continue with GL til I had time to test and they send me a new OUPV with GL. When I finally had time I ran down to CG testing center and took the RoR and in a week or so I had a new OUPV with Near Coastal.

Dont pay to take any training just read thru the Navigation Rules and Regulations Handbook.

Hope this helps.

dzlnut 10-22-2019 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by Salmonbum (Post 13042882)
I just did this. Back when I got my OUPV, Great Lakes time was considered inland and my license was labeled "Great Lakes and Inland". A few yrs ago they changed GL time to now be near coastal. I renewed in 2018 and asked to be upgraded to Near Coastal. They sent me letter that I just had to retest rules of the road within a yr. I responded by asking if I could continue with GL til I had time to test and they send me a new OUPV with GL. When I finally had time I ran down to CG testing center and took the RoR and in a week or so I had a new OUPV with Near Coastal.

Dont pay to take any training just read thru the Navigation Rules and Regulations Handbook.

Hope this helps.


thanks for sharing your experience

my MMC states OUPV inland because at the time thats what sea time experience I had ........

however my Mariners course certificate states OUPV................. it doesn't say inland or near coastal or any other designation

Now that I have near coastal sea time experience I wanna upgrade

tomharty 10-22-2019 12:34 PM

In my case I never "asked" for anything, the reviewer at NMC decides based on sea service forms. You need 90 of the 360 days to be seaward of the COLREGS boundary line.

dzlnut 10-22-2019 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by tomharty (Post 13042963)
In my case I never "asked" for anything, the reviewer at NMC decides based on sea service forms. You need 90 of the 360 days to be seaward of the COLREGS boundary line.

I have sea time experience that surpasses the 90 day requirement seaward of the boundary line ... so it sounds like I am all good without additional testing

tomharty 10-22-2019 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by dzlnut (Post 13042970)
I have sea time experience that surpasses the 90 day requirement seaward of the boundary line ... so it sounds like I am all good without additional testing


Correct, as long as its properly noted on the 719 forms they'll pick up on it.

dzlnut 10-22-2019 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by tomharty (Post 13043143)
Correct, as long as its properly noted on the 719 forms they'll pick up on it.


that is great news, how should I properly note it on the 719 form?

tomharty 10-25-2019 12:10 PM

PM replied to, but the box here highlighted in green.

Also COLREGS boundary lines are mysterious, here's where they actually are. https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/46/part-7

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.the...5a84cd8f7a.png

donald/tri-again 10-25-2019 05:06 PM

You would need to pass international rules of road
and sea time in new area

dzlnut 11-03-2019 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by donald/tri-again (Post 13052892)
You would need to pass international rules of road
and sea time in new area


my oupv course that I originally took and tested for covered that

dzlnut 11-11-2019 02:34 PM

1 Attachment(s)
on the Medical certificate form 719K Attachment 1106882

Page 3

it says Endorsement Held or Sought and it has check mark boxes for Deck, Engine, Food Handler, STCW

Other:_______________________________


Should I select Other and write in "OUPV near coastal"?

Salmonbum 11-11-2019 04:55 PM

Choose "DecK" and it other Type "OUPV".

dzlnut 11-11-2019 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by Salmonbum (Post 13098115)
Choose "DecK" and it other Type "OUPV".


ohh bummer I already submitted it

dzlnut 11-23-2019 09:18 AM

I went to check the status of my renewal application and the this is what the update said

"APPROVED TO TEST"

"Your application for this credential was approved for applicant testing on November 22, 2019. Prior to issuance you will be required to pass the following examinations: Deck General/Safety (70%), Navigation General: Near Coastal (70%), Operator Uninspected Passenger Vessel Renewal Open Book Exercise (90%), and Rules of the Road: Inland and International Renewal Open Book Exercise (90%). You will receive a letter from the National Maritime Center detailing the exam procedures. You should schedule your exams online at
http://www.uscg.mil/nmc/rec_information.asp upon receipt of the letter. You must have paid your exam fees before you will be allowed to take your exams pay.gov."

dzlnut 11-23-2019 09:20 AM

Why would I need to take any test?

I already passed the OUPV course that covers all of this and my 719 form is properly documented for the near coastal experience

Craash420 11-23-2019 12:08 PM

If your OUPV course included the test at the end they may have filed something incorrectly, I know most online courses require you to take the test at a certified location like the Coast Guard or Aux post.


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