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Old 10-09-2019, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullboxer View Post


please, get out of here with that. 1 hour isnít losing anything on a business and if you canít take time off to see a doctor you run a crap business or are one of those people that says they are always busy but is horrible at time mangement. I donít care what job you have, everyone on earth can take time to see a doctor once a month. No one is that busy and if you are, block off 3 hours one day. Your business wonít go under, I promise.
you are making some assumptions... it takes time to get to a doctor... time waiting... time seeing the doctor... time getting back after the visit... its not just one hour, it could be multiple hours for some people... what if they need to see multiple doctors per month? i know some folks that commute 2+ hours per direction... do they pic a doctor close to work or home?
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Originally Posted by Pipo6007 View Post


How many of us have missed some work to go fishing for a day?? Take the day see the dr then go fishing for the rest of the day. No big deal.
that could be fine for some but not others... some people get paid hourly living pay check to pay check and taking a day off could mean not providing for their family... just sayin'
Old 10-09-2019, 03:12 PM
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My dentist retired.

Found a new dentist close to home. Went to the first appointment - they looked at me and said they couldn't do much until they got my old records from my retiring dentist.

They said they would request them and when they had them they would call me to schedule the follow on appointment.

I kind of forgot about it for a couple weeks. Three weeks later I called and ask about it. "Oh, our fax machine has been broke so we haven't faxed the request for you records yet"

Fax broke? Ever heard of a phone? Ever heard of an email? It's been broke for 3 weeks? A new fax machine costs what - $200?

"Forget it - I'll find another dentist"

In a very confused voice she asked "Oh, okay. May we ask why?"

No you may not - have a nice day

I now have a new dentist

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Old 10-09-2019, 03:12 PM
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Bickering about how hard or difficult it is on folks to take the time off, completely misses the point. If the Dr. office insists that I show up at a certain time, and then I sit in the waiting room for 2 hours, then this is just bad time management at the expense of the patient. What other businesses get away with that?
Old 10-09-2019, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bobeast View Post
Bickering about how hard or difficult it is on folks to take the time off, completely misses the point. If the Dr. office insists that I show up at a certain time, and then I sit in the waiting room for 2 hours, then this is just bad time management at the expense of the patient. What other businesses get away with that?
Really. Donít do it if youíre so peeved by it. Or get a concierge service.

** as for what other businesses are like this, ask yourself how many services from plumbing to cable tv canít give you better than a four hour window.
Old 10-09-2019, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mystery View Post
that could be fine for some but not others... some people get paid hourly living pay check to pay check and taking a day off could mean not providing for their family... just sayin'
So youíre looking for a drive thru Dr office? In and out in 5 minutes or your appointment is free? Be ready for a nurse or NP to see you. Thatís what Dr.ís are resorting to and itís becoming more popular. There is a shortage of Drís now and it will only get worse from here on out. When it costs 300K-400K to become a Dr and countless hours of studying and 10 years plus education, that stops a lot of people from pursuing that career.

If time is of the essence then try an urgent care or a clinic. It maybe quicker if lines are short.
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Originally Posted by Pipo6007 View Post


So youíre looking for a drive thru Dr office? In and out in 5 minutes or your appointment is free? Be ready for a nurse or NP to see you. Thatís what Dr.ís are resorting to and itís becoming more popular. There is a shortage of Drís now and it will only get worse from here on out. When it costs 300K-400K to become a Dr and countless hours of studying and 10 years plus education, that stops a lot of people from pursuing that career.

If time is of the essence then try an urgent care or a clinic. It maybe quicker if lines are short.
personally I donít have the expectation of them always being on time. I do have the expectation of having clear internal communication that they can pass on to their customers if requested.

if they are 2 hours behind and canít convey that over the phone they need to evaluate their business practices. Sometimes situations beyond the customers control dictates that waiting or being seen extraordinarily late simply isnít an option. I get it. Crap happens and schedules get off. But donít lie to me or allow your employees to do so in an effort to avoid a cancellation or the need to reschedule at a later date.
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The government we elected makes the work of any physician who wishes to get paid with insurance into a nightmare.

Add to that the demands placed on them by the insurance companies who have lobbied themselves into being required by law and you have our healthcare system. It's a very expensive and largely inefficient chit show.

We are number 37 in overall rank of healthcare worldwide.

We rank at dead last as far as expense per quality of care received.

Very sad to see the richest nation in the world well outside the top ten in anything.
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Originally Posted by bsh102 View Post
Waiting in a drs office is an expensive waste of time as well as driving to the office. I was told about an app called doctor on demand. This is the new way of medicine. I saw a doctor within a couple of minutes, had a discussion with what was coming on, she had me do a couple of things via phone video. She prescribed me the medication to my local pharmacist and I picked it up an hour later and a few days later felt great. She did a follow up call with me about seven days later to make sure we were healthy again. The cost $75, bargain. (My copay would have been $15 and two hours plus of my time). I would not recommend this for any major issues but they will schedule tests, blood work everything for you and you basically head over to the labs and they will call you when they get the results.
This is the new way of medicine not sitting in a drs office for an hour and than seeing the nurse and the dr may stop by for a brief chat. My entire meeting was with an actual Dr.

I have been with an MDVIP doctor for about six years. Same-day appointments if necessary, 24-hour access, no waiting for office visits. They are limited to a certain number of patients, but the annual fee is now about $2,500 I think.
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In 2005 my heart stopped and I ended up with a pacemaker. It was a new world for my wife and I as we tried to wrap our heads around this new wrinkle. It was all so sudden and we had so many questions. A regular cardiologist could not answer our questions, and we found an electrophysiologist. They specialize in the electrical system of the heart. We went to his office and the waiting room ws packed. We easily went past our scheduled time, but when we went in he took the time to explain everything to us, and it took some time. That's the kind of doctor I want to go to.
Old 10-09-2019, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Pipo6007 View Post


So you’re looking for a drive thru Dr office? In and out in 5 minutes or your appointment is free? Be ready for a nurse or NP to see you. That’s what Dr.’s are resorting to and it’s becoming more popular. There is a shortage of Dr’s now and it will only get worse from here on out. When it costs 300K-400K to become a Dr and countless hours of studying and 10 years plus education, that stops a lot of people from pursuing that career.

If time is of the essence then try an urgent care or a clinic. It maybe quicker if lines are short.


i have no problems. i explained above how i handle it: i call ahead to see if they are running on time. if they are, i show up at my appointment time. if they are not, i keep working and arrive when they say they will be ready. i dont complain because my time is not wasted but i do have to go out of my way to find out how far behind the doc is running. i would be super pissed if my time was wasted. i generally do not book any client meetings for an hour after just so i have some buffer. i have doctors in the family. they generally do not run behind. they deal with emergencies, phone calls, etc. it is indeed time management and some doctors dont have the basic skill or overbook for what they are capable of handling.

thankfully, im generally healthy, and its just annual checkups. i once used a company that you go in, get blood work, they serve you breakfast, and have every possible type of specialist on-site, they get you in and out within four hours (can get lunch on them too) a complete check of everything by every specialist. some specialists i dont get to see because i am not at risk or old enough. was pretty impressed. my employer picked up the bill and it was during the work day so not on my own time.
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Originally Posted by mystery View Post
i have no problems. i explained above how i handle it: i call ahead to see if they are running on time. if they are, i show up at my appointment time. if they are not, i keep working and arrive when they say they will be ready. i dont complain because my time is not wasted but i do have to go out of my way to find out how far behind the doc is running. i would be super pissed if my time was wasted. i generally do not book any client meetings for an hour after just so i have some buffer. i have doctors in the family. they generally do not run behind. they deal with emergencies, phone calls, etc. it is indeed time management and some doctors dont have the basic skill or overbook for what they are capable of handling.

thankfully, im generally healthy, and its just annual checkups. i once used a company that you go in, get blood work, they serve you breakfast, and have every possible type of specialist on-site, they get you in and out within four hours (can get lunch on them too) a complete check of everything by every specialist. some specialists i dont get to see because i am not at risk or old enough. was pretty impressed. my employer picked up the bill and it was during the work day so not on my own time.
That's nice that Chuck-e-cheese picked up the tab. Very big of them.
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They're always late because they're in their office counting $100 bills and making a tee time. Damn ingrates. Don't they know they work for you!
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Originally Posted by mystery View Post
i have no problems. i explained above how i handle it: i call ahead to see if they are running on time. if they are, i show up at my appointment time. if they are not, i keep working and arrive when they say they will be ready. i dont complain because my time is not wasted but i do have to go out of my way to find out how far behind the doc is running. i would be super pissed if my time was wasted. i generally do not book any client meetings for an hour after just so i have some buffer. i have doctors in the family. they generally do not run behind. they deal with emergencies, phone calls, etc. it is indeed time management and some doctors dont have the basic skill or overbook for what they are capable of handling.

thankfully, im generally healthy, and its just annual checkups. i once used a company that you go in, get blood work, they serve you breakfast, and have every possible type of specialist on-site, they get you in and out within four hours (can get lunch on them too) a complete check of everything by every specialist. some specialists i dont get to see because i am not at risk or old enough. was pretty impressed. my employer picked up the bill and it was during the work day so not on my own time.
you sound like the type of patient a practice would like to fire. All your posts are self absorbed about your time and yourself. God forbid you go to a doctor who has to take extra time with someone else before you unexpectedly.
Old 10-09-2019, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullboxer View Post


you sound like the type of patient a practice would like to fire. All your posts are self absorbed about your time and yourself. God forbid you go to a doctor who has to take extra time with someone else before you unexpectedly.











or im a no nonsense type of person

sure there could be a one-off unexpected situation and i'd be extremely understanding. the problem is if a doc is always behind and behind by significant amount of time. that means they are not managing their time or schedule properly. that is fact.

again, i dont have wait issues because i call ahead to confirm whether the doc is on-time or running behind. heck one doc office told me the wrong location for the appointment (multiple locations) and i had to spend an extra hour driving in traffic after waiting months for the appointment. the doc was one of the top docs (per multiple docs) and once he found out he knows my other half's practice and has family members that go to her, he apologized profusely, i knew it wasn't his fault so i wasn't pissed, and i had time that day to sit in traffic. he told me any time i need an appointment or my other half needs an appointment, he will get us scheduled ASAP no waiting months for his normal schedule. a few of my friends have already scheduled appointments at my recommendation because of my excellent doc experience (and i let them know to make sure to triple confirm which office location their appointment is in).

in fact, my docs love me, i usually refer a ton of business to them, my PCP of 12 years has gotten probably two dozen new patients from my referrals and generally this doc runs 30-60 minutes behind. i just warn everyone to call ahead if they care about waiting. fantastic doc just needs to work on scheduling/time management.

so in summary, docs that run behind schedule all of the time need to fix something or at least have someone call to let patients know they are running behind. i personally avoid waiting because i call ahead. i know plenty of people that dont call ahead though and yes a significant delay in the middle of the work day waiting can cost them income/business which isn't fair.

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Originally Posted by tim kilbride View Post
Easiest way I found to fix this issue is to always book the FIRST available appointment of the day....usually 7am or 8am, depending on my doctor.

We also have an online portal that we use to do everything, send messages back and forth, book/change appointments, get our test results w/dr notes on them. All kinds of things can be done through our portal.

They also have a "pre check in" feature...if there is anything I need to fill out prior to my appointment, they send it to me electronically and I do it on my own time, prior to arriving. When my insurance card updated, I just scanned in at my office and sent it along days before my appointment.

My dr gets me in and out, quickly and always on time. I've got no complaints whatsoever.

I used to do that. My longest waits have come on those first appointments of the day. My orthopedic surgeon is more likely to be on time at the end of the day when he is ready to go home.

I DO NOT show up early for appointments. I will be in the waiting room checked in at the appointment time. I will not show up 30 minutes early to be seen an hour late.

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