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Old 09-26-2019, 04:58 PM
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Default Remodeling advice and a question about fridge water line.

First off, in case your wife has been trying to talk you into removing that old ceramic tile, you need to hire someone! Been removing tile from a bathroom that I am remodeling and resizing to add a hallway. Been a very long project going on a year soon! Anyhow, this tile did not just come up easy and fought me the entire way. At this point I think I will grind the rest of the thinset, because the hammer I rented is going to be 2 days at about $200. Not sure if anyone has tackled a job like this but DON’T! Not even a little bit fun and I feel like my ass has been kicked.

Now the question is that my fridge water line is tapped into my bathroom sink cold side. They ran a copper 1/4” line and it probably runs about 40’ to the fridge through the attic and is not insulated. Since I have already ran some PEX for this project, would it be any benefit to remove and replace that line with 1/2”? I mean would I notice any difference in pressure at the fridge? It already goes to 1/4” there, so I am thinking no noticeable difference. Is that correct? Will add some pics now.

You can see where the hammer dug in a lot of places, which is why I think grinding will be better, but the dust will suck!

This is the fridge line running out the valve on the right.

Probably say about 20 hours work, including removing vanity, sink, and toilet. I am sure some of you young guys could do it in a lot less time, but it sucks no matter how long it takes!

More grooves dug in here.
Old 09-26-2019, 05:19 PM
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Why the h*** is your supply line 40' from the fridge? Do you not have a sink in your kitchen?
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Lol...this looks like one of my honey do projects . Such a minimal draw I don’t see any issue. Run PEX!
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And FYI. I have had good luck using a pneumatic chisel with a point attachment. Blow the tile up then follow up with a chisel attachment to clean up the mortar. But you already covered the hard part!
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I (unfortunately) have done this a couple times).

Listen to what I'm about to tell you like your life depends on it.

To grind the thinset, you will need a suitable grinder, with a diamond cut wheel. I can tell you EXACTLY what I used tomm.

You replace the grinder's shroud with one made to collect dust and hook to a shop vac.

You have to upgrade the filter in the shop vac (again, I can tell you specifics tomm).

You also have to put a "dust deputy" in series between the grinder and shop vac.

Without the dust deputy you can only do about 9 sqft before the upgraded shop vac filter plugs, and now your hours behind.

You will need respirator, glasses, and hearing protection.

Some people will go over the top with slc or whatever but it looks like you're past that point.

Quit effing up your slab bro

A wider blade on the demo hammer would be a big help I'm sure.

Take what I just told you to the bank, I swore I would never do it again, but I did.
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I doubt you would see an increase in flow to fridge, it is usually pretty small anyway.

Not a bad time to replace with and upgrade to PEX anyway though. I'd consider teeing into the line in the wall, and running new PEX to an ice maker connection box behind your fridge. Cleaner installation.

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Originally Posted by 1976K204x4 View Post
Why the h*** is your supply line 40' from the fridge? Do you not have a sink in your kitchen?
Not sure why! Yes there is a sink in the kitchen, but it is under a window, so maybe that is why?
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Having done a few DIY remodels, and helped a dozen friends with their own I laugh every time someone says “the contractor wanted so much, I’m going to save a ton of money by doing the demo myself.”(of course I’ll probably get suckered into a few more)

I think you could find a tile guy to demo for $1/sqft for demo or less, as long as you gave him the install - probably $2-4/sqft for install on top of whatever they left over depending on what you were putting down. Hate to say it but I think it’s worth it, especially once you get into renting equipment.

I’d also like to see the water line situation. I assumed your bathroom sink was closer than the kitchen sink, but your description doesn’t make sense. If you’re ripping out the kitchen cabinets, you should be able to easily run a new water line along the floor in the kickplate area, if nothing else.




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On the west coast of Florida i used Bottomzupp for tile removal. 1.50 to 2 a sqft, nice and clean, well worth it.

yes the ice line is plumbed from the bath cause they didn’t want to go around the window, leave it in the bath unless there is a shorter run- water heater in garage, etc.

1/8” pex is 1/4 OD, it is fine for your application.

thinset removal with the thinset blade- you should be hammmering down at 60+ degrees to shatter the thinset as opposed to scraping it. Dip the blade in a water bucket to keep it cool.
Don’t worry about the digs, just float them with thinset when you prep the slab.
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PM Me I will give you 3/8 OD pex ...

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I did a small bath a few years ago, guy charge me $300 to do what youre doing. Once you rent the tools to do it its easy decision..
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Originally Posted by WPBTH View Post
I did a small bath a few years ago, guy charge me $300 to do what youre doing. Once you rent the tools to do it its easy decision..
Hindsight! Yeah, at this point I would say I should have paid someone to do it. Done now, so I guess I should have posted prior to doing this!
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I might be wrong but it looking at the pics, it looks like they might have used thin set to fill a low area in the floor and you’re trying to chip that up. Have you payed a straight edge over the floor. It just looks like it’s feathered out to me. Btw, change out those supply valves while you have easy access to them.
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Originally Posted by rbhankins001 View Post
I (unfortunately) have done this a couple times).

Listen to what I'm about to tell you like your life depends on it.

To grind the thinset, you will need a suitable grinder, with a diamond cut wheel. I can tell you EXACTLY what I used tomm.

You replace the grinder's shroud with one made to collect dust and hook to a shop vac.

You have to upgrade the filter in the shop vac (again, I can tell you specifics tomm).

You also have to put a "dust deputy" in series between the grinder and shop vac.

Without the dust deputy you can only do about 9 sqft before the upgraded shop vac filter plugs, and now your hours behind.

You will need respirator, glasses, and hearing protection.

Some people will go over the top with slc or whatever but it looks like you're past that point.

Quit effing up your slab bro

A wider blade on the demo hammer would be a big help I'm sure.

Take what I just told you to the bank, I swore I would never do it again, but I did.

Or use this

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I regularly re-run ice lines, and go thru the cabinets., usually at the very rear and at the top. Can't see 'em when the top is installed.
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Originally Posted by rbhankins001 View Post
I (unfortunately) have done this a couple times).

Listen to what I'm about to tell you like your life depends on it.

To grind the thinset, you will need a suitable grinder, with a diamond cut wheel. I can tell you EXACTLY what I used tomm.

You replace the grinder's shroud with one made to collect dust and hook to a shop vac.

You have to upgrade the filter in the shop vac (again, I can tell you specifics tomm).

You also have to put a "dust deputy" in series between the grinder and shop vac.

Without the dust deputy you can only do about 9 sqft before the upgraded shop vac filter plugs, and now your hours behind.

You will need respirator, glasses, and hearing protection.

Some people will go over the top with slc or whatever but it looks like you're past that point.

Quit effing up your slab bro

A wider blade on the demo hammer would be a big help I'm sure.

Take what I just told you to the bank, I swore I would never do it again, but I did.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU 🙏

This gave me what I needed to finish the job. I already had the diamond wheel and knew it would work well from testing, but I could only run it for about 30 seconds before the whole room was white-out conditions! I took what you said and bought a dust collector from HD, then fashioned a dust collector with hose. It worked really well. Here are some pics. I should have had my wife take some while I was doing it.






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Welp. You've lived up to your handle - nice job!
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Welp. You've lived up to your handle - nice job!
They don’t call me therealmacgyver for nothing!
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