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First of all let me say I feel like depression is a serious issue for some people and don't have the opinion that "you should just man up and work through it" if you have serious depression.
With that being said I experience what I consider light depression 1-4 days a month +/-. Every now and then I just don't want to get out a bed but always do and get after it. Successful, great wife and kids, work way too much and experience some stress there, but overall I consider myself blessed.
I have considered asking my MD for something to help out a little, but don't want to deal with the side effects.

I have some friends that are using that just seem a little too "lazy" for lack of a better term. I feel like in my case I may be better off to just power through an off day every now and then than to medicate for a couple days a month. Thoughts?

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Old 09-17-2019, 12:39 AM
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Your not the only one. I experience the same as you. Same situation...great wife, successful businesses, awesome kids. Just difficult to get motivated sometimes.
Not against chemical assistance (wife is a PharmDe), but not for me at this point. Have a great Dr and keep her in the loop.
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How old? Might have a doc check your testosterone, estrogen and cortisol levels.
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Hello, won´t go into details but have had several family members and friends suffer with depression, apart from a medical / pharmaceutical intervention to check your levels, a couple of things helped, one was counselling, good to get things of your chest to someone who has no prior knowledge of you and the other was relaxation techniques, yoga, pilates or gym, this helped with energy levels and also helped fight stress which in turn helped life in general. Hope this helps.
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I appreciate the responses. I have my annual coming up and will discuss with my MD. I work 7 on 7 off grave-yard and own a contracting business and a bunch of rental property that I deal with on my 7 off. I think more than anything I am not getting enough rest with the change in sleeping times from week to week. I also don't exercise or eat properly! Making some positive changes in those two categories will probably help a great deal. Not sleeping well is beginning to take a toll!
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Sleep is a major factor. Over-working and lack of proper rest combine as major, major factors. With those two going on, I'd say quality of life (having fun and quality time with family) is also suffering. Think about too much going on in your life. Maybe time to rethink schedules and weekly timeline.
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According to many studies, exercise is by far one of the best lifestyle changes you can do to improve your symptoms. Talk to your MD, but if they don't recommend a therapist I'll be surprised.

Hopefully DrDanH will be by with some thoughts.
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You need to lighten your load and as mentioned get your levels checked.

I need to also but they draw a vile of blood I pass out and it takes about 4 hours to get my shit back together.... I'm 6'2" 240 linebacker build.....last time they walked me out after 45 minutes and sat me on a bench next to 3 ole ladies....they gave me a ration if shit cause I made their appointments late....one I thought was going to hit me when she saw one of my tattoos....lol!!!!
Ah boy that was embarrassing humbling hilarious and pathetic all in one......

Anyhooo.....he prescribed me Lexapro......after 3 months the girl I was living with at the time ask me what's wrong......well apparently it - Lexapro is a libido killer....and I didn't recognize it......just something to consider.....I tossed that shit right and " manned up " that was 15 years ago or so

Also address any little things or major bothering you.....about 10 years ago I thought I was having a heart attack....I actually called 911. Off to the hospital several tests hours later.........
The Dr. Says to me you have black blah ba blah ba blahh....I said what the heck is that????
You had a panic attack...a anxiety issue.
He said Lance I'm a medical doctor....however you have a mental issue ( yeah no shit ) that your not dealing with and at times of rest or slow brain activity it creeps in to you.....
I neve knew this could happen.....so I identified the issue....and attacked it and won......I will post the results of it here later in a Pic

Reason I'm telling you this is everyone is mental and physical issues affect us all differently....for example Lexapro may work for you and not affect you as it did me......

Well those are my experiences.....hope it can help

Great day!!!!
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I too have the same situation as you. Difference here is I refuse to take rx for it. Been there, done that. For me, it was a terrible cycle where I had to take a second drug to counteract the side affects of the first. Then a third drug to deal with the second. Nope, not for me.
I recently stopped drinking (one month tomorrow) and noticed a great difference in my overall being. My mood is much more consistent than I've ever been.
I absolutely agree to get blood work done to measure your testosterone, estrogen, and cortisol. Those can make a huge difference. If you ever feel like you're moody for no reason, that could be the culprit.
Best to you and let us know how it goes.
The most important thing to know is you are not the only one who feels this way.
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Exercise is one of the best things you can do to help with depression.
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Get on a tread mill, elliptical machine or go to a college volleyball game. You have to get the blood flowing ( see your doctor first, disclaimer for the weak minded and opportunist). Man was not made to sit around 10 hrs a day looking at a screen. That said life is going to have crappy days, that’s life... There is no magic pill to fix this only mask it short term.
Depression is like stopping smoking, it ain’t easy, it takes work to overcome, its uncomfortable, but it can be done.

oh picture of wife..........
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OP: Lots of good advice above. You're on the right track with the visit for your annual physical. The first rule out is always any possible medical concerns. Be sure to tell your doc about your sleep issues, work schedule, lack of exercise, poor diet... all of which can contribute to depression.

Part of the screening during the physical will be for other depressive symptoms such as anhedonia (lack of enjoyment of activities), withdrawn behavior, changes in appetite (some people lose appetite, others increase appetite with depressed mood), alcohol/drug use, loss of interest in sex, family problems, and increased stress. Screening will also include questions about thoughts of suicide. (Be honest with your PCM about all of the above, as awkward as that may be)

Depression (if it is not reactive depression, such as a response to a loss) can be multifaceted, and may require a combination of medical intervention and counseling to alleviate it. Good that you are being proactive and seeking help before it gets worse! PM me if I can be of any help!
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Originally Posted by jkmjr View Post
...Successful, great wife and kids, work way too much and experience some stress there, but overall I consider myself blessed.
Don't only consider yourself "blessed"...consider yourself normal.

Meds because you don't feel like getting out of bed a few times a month sounds odd to me.

There must be more because I am sure almost everyone feels like not getting out of bed at least a few days a month.

Good luck
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I'm on meds and it made a huge improvement in my life. I don't recall not being able to ever get out of bed, but despite all my blessings, sometimes my underlying thoughts were "What is the point of all this".
I'm definitely in a much better place now, more positive and don't dwell on the trivial stresses and issues of life. Cured my cycling thoughts at 2am and made me a more stable person for friends and family to be around.

If you want to talk outside the forum send me a PM.
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OP: Lots of good advice above. You're on the right track with the visit for your annual physical. The first rule out is always any possible medical concerns. Be sure to tell your doc about your sleep issues, work schedule, lack of exercise, poor diet... all of which can contribute to depression.

Part of the screening during the physical will be for other depressive symptoms such as anhedonia (lack of enjoyment of activities), withdrawn behavior, changes in appetite (some people lose appetite, others increase appetite with depressed mood), alcohol/drug use, loss of interest in sex, family problems, and increased stress. Screening will also include questions about thoughts of suicide. (Be honest with your PCM about all of the above, as awkward as that may be)

Depression (if it is not reactive depression, such as a response to a loss) can be multifaceted, and may require a combination of medical intervention and counseling to alleviate it. Good that you are being proactive and seeking help before it gets worse! PM me if I can be of any help!

definitely follow up as DrD has suggested!

also the couple of days a month of just not wanting to do anything could be as simple as your body telling you it needs rest! you sound like a very busy guy that does not do well sitting still, always need to be doing something productive! those rest days will make you feel depressed if that is your case! i go through the same thing when i cant be productive!
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Be VERY careful what you say dealing with this issue. Also, not all medications work the same. Do NOT see a regular Doc for medications..only a Psychiatrist experienced with the various anti-depressents should prescribe medications!
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I have a little experience with this. It's not easy to just break the cycle and each persons challenges are unique.

The medical possibilities and treatment advice has been said, so here are a few non-medical things you can do to help:

get some exercise. It doesn't have to be a massive gym workout. Just go for a walk, preferably in nature somewhere. It will help both mentally and physically.

do what you can daily to get some extra steps in. Park at the back corner of the lot when you go somewhere. Get a Fitbit or apple watch and count your steps. If you have family, friends or coworkers with them you can have little competitions. It might sound stupid, but when you see you have 1000 steps left to win, you might just go out and get another walk in.

Do something nice for someone else, perhaps a stranger. Go clean up the yard for an old lady. Go serve soup at the soup kitchen. Tutor or mentor or coach a kid. whatever. Doing, not just paying for, things for others will make you feel better about yourself. I try to remember to do little things whenever I can on a daily basis, like take a few extra steps to beat a woman to the door and hold it open for her, or if I'm ahead of her just open the door and wait, same with elderly, handicapped. It's a tiny gesture but something I can do nearly every day.

Ask yourself what your purpose is. What do you want and that gets you going every day? If you struggle with this answer, that's a big issue, bigger than it may seem. If you don't feel you have a purpose it can lead to feelings that you don't have value, or that things are pointless and so on.

As others mentioned, diet and drinking. You know it, you mentioned it. Start somewhere and make some small changes and keep adding them and soon you will have changed greatly.


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Be VERY careful what you say dealing with this issue. Also, not all medications work the same. Do NOT see a regular Doc for medications..only a Psychiatrist experienced with the various anti-depressents should prescribe medications!
if that is the case, i would recommend a different PCP! any PCP worth a hoot should be able to get through the basics and get a handle on the depression, in the event the PCP cannot handle it, then yes seeing psych is the next step!

in my area psych is a minimum of 6 months waiting list.
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Originally Posted by jkmjr View Post
First of all let me say I feel like depression is a serious issue for some people and don't have the opinion that "you should just man up and work through it" if you have serious depression.
With that being said I experience what I consider light depression 1-4 days a month +/-. Every now and then I just don't want to get out a bed but always do and get after it. Successful, great wife and kids, work way too much and experience some stress there, but overall I consider myself blessed.
I have considered asking my MD for something to help out a little, but don't want to deal with the side effects.

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Anyone?

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