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Old 09-16-2019, 06:10 AM
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Default Free standing garage, need help from the builders, PLEASE

I know its been discussed over the years and I spent the last hour, not only the first time, looking through past threads to find the info. I really just can't find enough and thought this would be a good way to possible find a GC to actually work with since I have seen over the years lots of forum members are GC's...

I want to build a garage on some vacant land I have, its zoned industrial so don't need a house. Here it goes...

CBS construction
60' x 100' x 17'
I would like a standing seam metal roof but would like to know the price difference between flat, 40 year shingles...
2 16' x 16' garage doors in the front, 1 man door on each side. No windows
I want to split the space so I would need a block wall in the middle, front to back
very small office & restroom (10' x 10') on each side, so 2 office/restroom

I know there are lots of other little variables but Im really trying to get a somewhat current price per square foot of what other forum member built for themselves, or others, to construct the actual building. Location is South Florida

Thanks
Old 09-16-2019, 06:33 AM
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$100/sg ft.....price could go up or down depending upon how well you want the interior/exterior finished. The wall in the middle, why the need for concrete block? Does it have a door or window in it? Is it going to be unfinished block or finished? There are so many factors that could make two garages standing side by side, both with CBS construction and the same footprint, where one can be twice as expensive as the other.
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Originally Posted by Diverboy View Post
$100/sg ft.....price could go up or down depending upon how well you want the interior/exterior finished. The wall in the middle, why the need for concrete block? Does it have a door or window in it? Is it going to be unfinished block or finished? There are so many factors that could make two garages standing side by side, both with CBS construction and the same footprint, where one can be twice as expensive as the other.
wall in the middle cause I will rent half out. unfinished block painted
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if your going to split it so essentially you will have a 30x100. that is going to make an odd set up and may make it difficult to rent out. i would try and get a little wider even if you have to make it a little shorter!
of make the split the other way so you would have a 50x60
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Like this
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sounds like an application for an all steel building with insulation. Generally the labor is less because they go up so quickly. Shingles will probably be 1/2 the price of standing seam. Regular R panel tin holds up very well, replace screws at the 20 year mark. R panel is also much easier to repair, if for some reason a sheet is damaged.
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Why do the whole thing block? A prefab metal building will be so much less labor. Concerned about longevity?
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Originally Posted by critt77matt View Post
sounds like an application for an all steel building with insulation. Generally the labor is less because they go up so quickly. Shingles will probably be 1/2 the price of standing seam. Regular R panel tin holds up very well, replace screws at the 20 year mark. R panel is also much easier to repair, if for some reason a sheet is damaged.
wow beat me to it haha.
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If your going to rent it you may want to consider the power requirements of a potential tenant. Bringing in 3 phase power can get costly. New “lifetime” shingles will run somewhere around $3.00 a foot, standing seam closer to $6.00. Zero reason to use a flat system unless you need to hide mechanical systems on the roof. The costs would be close to the standing seam depending on the insulation and drainage.
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Originally Posted by clamjammer View Post
Why do the whole thing block? A prefab metal building will be so much less labor. Concerned about longevity?
Yes. I know a few people nearby with steel buildings and most said they would have preferred CBS

As far as the size and tenant. Already have a tenant in another one of my places, he's going to move into the new building and the other half if for my space.
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steel building all the way! i put mine up myself! 30x40 red iron building!
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We just built a 50x75x16. I have two 14x14 front doors giving me a finished ceiling at 16ft, one 10x10 on the back side. Windows, full electric, toilet and shower with 6in concrete floor. We paid 150,00. Looks almost like the one in your pic.
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Originally Posted by baiterjoe View Post
We just built a 50x75x16. I have two 14x14 front doors giving me a finished ceiling at 16ft, one 10x10 on the back side. Windows, full electric, toilet and shower with 6in concrete floor. We paid 150,00. Looks almost like the one in your pic.

was that $15,000.00?

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steel building all the way! i put mine up myself! 30x40 red iron building!
I upgraded mine to galvanized. you should technically paint your red iron but it is rarely done.

OP price out CBS vs all steel. FYI many commercial buildings now use an iron frame with a brick exterior like gas stations and office buildings. The iron frame ensures it is wind rated and your roof won't be ripped off. The eye of Katrina went over us our steel buildings held up, I think it was only rated for 120mph now we build to 150 mph. Block buildings had their roof ripped off, most of these roofs were wooden trust, some had walls fall/blown in. Some steel buildings had their roll up doors blown in and maybe a few sheets of wall tin blown out the other side, but the roofs were intact. If a steel building floods the roll ups will be damaged and sometimes it pushes the tin out at the bottom, depends on the speed of the water leaving.
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Originally Posted by baiterjoe View Post
We just built a 50x75x16. I have two 14x14 front doors giving me a finished ceiling at 16ft, one 10x10 on the back side. Windows, full electric, toilet and shower with 6in concrete floor. We paid 150,00. Looks almost like the one in your pic.
Probably $150,000? for 3750 SF
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one hundred and fifty thousand.
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Originally Posted by baiterjoe View Post
one hundred and fifty thousand.
Thanks baiterjoe. Are you in South Florida? if so could you send me a pm who you used

Thanks, Scott
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One suggestion: If you're going 17' eve height consider bumping that to 18'. You can get a second floor in 18' if you ever needed to.
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Originally Posted by critt77matt View Post
I upgraded mine to galvanized. you should technically paint your red iron but it is rarely done.

OP price out CBS vs all steel. FYI many commercial buildings now use an iron frame with a brick exterior like gas stations and office buildings. The iron frame ensures it is wind rated and your roof won't be ripped off. The eye of Katrina went over us our steel buildings held up, I think it was only rated for 120mph now we build to 150 mph. Block buildings had their roof ripped off, most of these roofs were wooden trust, some had walls fall/blown in. Some steel buildings had their roll up doors blown in and maybe a few sheets of wall tin blown out the other side, but the roofs were intact. If a steel building floods the roll ups will be damaged and sometimes it pushes the tin out at the bottom, depends on the speed of the water leaving.
I believe Jupiter is 170. Find out ftom the bldg. department IF you can even build what you want. Next step..architect or engineer.
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