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Old 09-11-2019, 11:01 AM
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It isn't about politics! Its the fact that we still remember who did what and why! Pull your heads out of the sand and don't get complacent before something happens again. At 50 years old that day ranks #1 as the worst day in my lifetime. I never want to experience another episode like that again in this country.
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Originally Posted by superjag View Post
Could not agree more.
My sister-in-law is a bleeding heart liberal. We disagree on almost everything politic.
She also happens to work in a building which is adjacent to the WTC.
I can assure you that on that morning 18 years ago, her leftist leanings never entered my head. All I wanted to know that she was ok (thankfully she was).

Take your political ideologies and opine somewhere else. This is neither the time nor place for it.

Precisely. Iím a liberal myself. I also have a lot of close friends who are conservatives. We may not agree a lot on politics or just may choose not to discuss politics at all. But one thing we can always agree on is that we all love our country. We just have different ideas on how we think it should be made better. Apparently now for many love of country is something some think you canít even agree on anymore.
Old 09-11-2019, 11:07 AM
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Once again I implore that you not bring politics of any sort into this thread. I didn't put anything political in this to keep it out of the bilge. I have strong feelings about this and will share with anyone down below, but start your own thread!
Old 09-11-2019, 11:33 AM
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My office used to be next to the Charlotte airport. I watched the crashes on the tv. I remember shortly after the buildings went down the long line of airplanes forced in to land. It was a very surreal day. I'll never forget this attack and I'll damn sure never forgive.
Old 09-11-2019, 11:34 AM
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I will never forget the plane I was on from JFK that morning heading to San Fransisco....it started descending rapidly and we were told there was a problem with air traffic control and we needed to land quickly. We landed in Omaha. Getting off the plane I called our office to tell our secretary where we were...all I heard from her was "Thank God you're alright". Watched in horror at the TV in the airport to see what was happening back home. Waited too long to get a rental car and we were stuck in Nebraska for a few days. Tried to find out about all the folks I knew who worked on Wall Street. Got word that most were okay but in the end we lost a dear friend and client...Driving home to eastern Long Island and passing the smoldering remains was sadder then sad. Flags flew everywhere and I was never more proud of our great country.
The HATE in the world is horrible........
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As a responder to the World Trade Center besides all the detestation, I remember the people who all came together to try and help out. The candlelight vigils I saw while responding into the city helped restore some of my faith in humanity. The people who would try and stop down to ground zero with water and food were amazing. Everyone who saw you in a uniform would say thank you. The volunteers who would serve food, give massages and just listen to you were great. I remember the New York giants football team showing up by boat, just seeing them took my mind off the horrible job I was doing for a few minutes.
But now 18 years later, too many people have forgotten what happened. It’s very sad.
I will never forget.
Old 09-11-2019, 02:16 PM
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I transported some very important people during 9/11 for most of the week . This was my escort. Wherever I went , they followed.



Old 09-11-2019, 07:07 PM
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I will never forget..

I was in Korea and we had just settled in for the beginning of an aerial gunnery qualification exercise.

I was with the rest of the command group and we had bedded down for the night when a company commander, with his unauthorized cell phone, woke the battalion commander sleeping nearby.

"Sir, the World Trade Center towers are down. America is under attack."

The aerial gunnery exercise/qualification took on a new significance that night as every AH-64 crew there would employ those skills within a year or two.

I will never forget. I lost several friends in the years that followed.

Sidenote: My brother-in-law was supposed to be on the second plane to hit the towers. He had traded a business trip with a co-worker. The co-worker was killed when the plane hit the towers.

Yeah, I will never forget.
Old 09-11-2019, 07:17 PM
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I remember the day like it was yesterday, but the thing I remember most is the days and years following. Don't think we have ever been closer or more prideful as a country.

This country has problems, but our resolve after the Twin Towers fell proves that despite all that...this is the greatest country the world has ever known.

The only time I have ever been to NYC was the first week of August, 2001. Have some pictures of the WTC and distinctly remember that view coming into the city.

It's strange working with guys now that were too young at the time to remember that day.
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Time has not changed hate, it has always been with Men. Unfortunately too many loopholes and hatred led to this incredibly horrible day. Lesson learned, overstay your VISA and possibly evil idiots will take advantage of it, pay attention to what is going on, no need to delve into policies but thankfully a few have been changed. We still have not implemented many recommendations of the 9/11 investigation, enough said.
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One of the most humbling experiences of my life was 9/11. At the time I was a volunteer firefighter. In 1999 my small town in VA had major flooding from hurricane Floyd. Departments from all over came to help us. Our station was flooded. The assistance was unreal, but not shocking the way firefighters watch after each other. After that, we said if there was ever a chance for us to help another department, we would.

Within hours of 9/11 we were organizing a group to head up. I made the list to go. I left a message for my college professors and left town. We drove all night. When we arrived it was the largest disaster anyone could ever imagine. We stood in line for about 12 hours waiting on am assignment. They didn't allow fire fighters that weren't FDNY to do search and rescue but we were happy to help anyway we could. The staging area was the most uncomfortable scene ever, it was a restaurant, there was food and drink still on the table from when the attack happened. A scene I'll never forget.

We were given am assignment to demo some sidewalk where a beam had crashed through and broken a bunch of fiber lines for wall Street. We were right beside the rubble pile. Every time someone was located in the rubble pile all work would stop. Complete silence while the body was brought out. I was about 50 feet from President Bush when he gave his speech from ground zero.
​​​​​​We were there for about 4-5 days I guess. I think we left the following Sunday or Monday as they started to get more organized.

An experience I will never forget. Was my very first trip to NYC, been back several times since. Remembering this was before smart phones, the oddest thing was being cut off from the world.
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Originally Posted by NCSUboater View Post
I remember the day like it was yesterday, but the thing I remember most is the days and years following. Don't think we have ever been closer or more prideful as a country.

This country has problems, but our resolve after the Twin Towers fell proves that despite all that...this is the greatest country the world has ever known.

The only time I have ever been to NYC was the first week of August, 2001. Have some pictures of the WTC and distinctly remember that view coming into the city.

It's strange working with guys now that were too young at the time to remember that day.
unfortunately itís wained
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Originally Posted by STEELA View Post


unfortunately itís wained
I agree that the sense of us all being Americans has waned (terribly), but I still wholeheartedly believe this is the greatest country in the world.

Unfortunately it takes an event like 9/11 to bring out the sense of community. I was a volunteer firefighter at the time and remember us being up at the station pretty much 24/7.
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I will risk the wrath of my buddy Mod 7 and interject a non-denominational piece of politics that I hear on the teeeeveeee today:

The babies born on 11 September 2001 are eligible to vote today. Time passes quickly.

Earlier today, I received a text-- my buddy's first child was born today, 11 September, 2019 at 4:48pm. May God bless Damian Marcus and the world he will inherit from us!

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Old 09-11-2019, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jkapl001 View Post
One of the most humbling experiences of my life was 9/11. At the time I was a volunteer firefighter. In 1999 my small town in VA had major flooding from hurricane Floyd. Departments from all over came to help us. Our station was flooded. The assistance was unreal, but not shocking the way firefighters watch after each other. After that, we said if there was ever a chance for us to help another department, we would.

Within hours of 9/11 we were organizing a group to head up. I made the list to go. I left a message for my college professors and left town. We drove all night. When we arrived it was the largest disaster anyone could ever imagine. We stood in line for about 12 hours waiting on am assignment. They didn't allow fire fighters that weren't FDNY to do search and rescue but we were happy to help anyway we could. The staging area was the most uncomfortable scene ever, it was a restaurant, there was food and drink still on the table from when the attack happened. A scene I'll never forget.

We were given am assignment to demo some sidewalk where a beam had crashed through and broken a bunch of fiber lines for wall Street. We were right beside the rubble pile. Every time someone was located in the rubble pile all work would stop. Complete silence while the body was brought out. I was about 50 feet from President Bush when he gave his speech from ground zero.
​​​​​​We were there for about 4-5 days I guess. I think we left the following Sunday or Monday as they started to get more organized.

An experience I will never forget. Was my very first trip to NYC, been back several times since. Remembering this was before smart phones, the oddest thing was being cut off from the world.
J, we know how many of your brothers were murdered by muslims that day. We know that at least 90 more firefighters have died since then due to exposure to various substances from the fallen towers that day.

If you have any insight or even guesses to my following question, please share: what killed them? What was the chemical or substance in the dust that killed them? And why did it not harm anyone in your crew, being that you were there and exposed to the same risks?

Thanks! And thank you for your service to our great nation!

==>Rapi
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Every year there's a thread about 9/11 on THT. Every year I get emotional reading some of these stories. I will never forget where I was or what I was doing. I was just a freshman in college in class at the time. It changed all Americans but I can't imagine what some of y'all went through being so close to it.
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Originally Posted by Mako 234 View Post
Every year there's a thread about 9/11 on THT. Every year I get emotional reading some of these stories. I will never forget where I was or what I was doing. I was just a freshman in college in class at the time. It changed all Americans but I can't imagine what some of y'all went through being so close to it.
me too. And Iím just as pissed. Wish the rest of America was. They ainít
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Originally Posted by Rapi View Post
J, we know how many of your brothers were murdered by muslims that day. We know that at least 90 more firefighters have died since then due to exposure to various substances from the fallen towers that day.

If you have any insight or even guesses to my following question, please share: what killed them? What was the chemical or substance in the dust that killed them? And why did it not harm anyone in your crew, being that you were there and exposed to the same risks?

Thanks! And thank you for your service to our great nation!

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By the time we got there it had started to rain. The dust had all turned to sludge. Everything was covered in it. A combination of shredded paper and dust. They gave us respirators that we were instructed to wear at all times. Other than that I really couldn't say. I have some pics somewhere that I took but again, was before I was using a digital camera.
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Originally Posted by Rapi View Post
J, we know how many of your brothers were murdered by muslims that day. We know that at least 90 more firefighters have died since then due to exposure to various substances from the fallen towers that day.

If you have any insight or even guesses to my following question, please share: what killed them? What was the chemical or substance in the dust that killed them? And why did it not harm anyone in your crew, being that you were there and exposed to the same risks?

Thanks! And thank you for your service to our great nation!

==>Rapi
Rapi, Since 9/11 we have had 203 FF's die from 9/11 related causes, mostly cancers and lung related issues. Within the 1st few weeks, a letter, written by a chemistry professor from Texas A&M, was mailed to every firehouse in the city. In it he described the various chemical compounds that could possibly be formed. Between the jet fuel, asbestos, florescent lights, various plastics and everything else, it made quite the toxic brew. And then more so as it has heated by the initial fire and afterward in the collapse. Most people don't know or remember the fire raged for months on end, and at extreme temperatures. This is one of the reasons why the remains of so many were never found, they had been incinerated. I remember reading that letter and thinking we were all going to grow 3 heads, it was chilling, and sadly it foretold the lives of so many yet to come. As to why it didn't effect everyone equally, I don't know, that is a question only God can answer.

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