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Old 09-11-2019, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by bugnut View Post
As a little kid, I used to go bottle hunting in the early 70ís. We would get 3 cents per. Found a gallon milk bottle once and got 25 cents for it. That was the holy grail.

As a kid in the 70's friends and I were always scrounging around for bottles that paid probably nickles and dimes but I remember well the holy grail bottles were quart beer bottles , those beer bottles paid a quarter that was a lot of money in early 70's indeed the Holy Grail and easy to find at the local bar that we literally climbed in to a smelly dumpster for the mother load of smelly beer bottles ..
Old 09-11-2019, 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by WeeKilt View Post
Recycling is nice, but donít think for a second that because YOU put it in the recycling bin it gets recycled. Many municipalities are combining the trash at the end and just dumping it. Even the Chinese donít want our trash anymore. Too much to comb through to make it worthwhile.
Yep, the trash companies here throw both bins into the same truck.

As a kid, glass bottles were still popular. I remember stopping at a local grill with a friend and having a couple burgers. He opened a new Coke and drank about half of it. That's when he realized there was a folded up BC powder package in the bottle. Apparently they didn't clean that one too well after it had been recycled.
Old 09-11-2019, 04:38 AM
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Itís a tax that in turn powers a small part of the economy. Doesnít drive me to sort and turn in my cans.

in the late 80ís our club ďvolunteeredĒ to clean a fairly small park during the annual autumn fest. They provided the drums and bags, we provided the labor. Deal was that we kept the sorted cans for scrap payment. This was not a very big festival and back then we were making close to what we made in membership dues annually. Became our only fundraiser.

Old 09-11-2019, 06:24 AM
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I used to make $30+ a weekend as a kid combing the boat yard as my parents were working on the boat. The good old days of the wooden boat cradle before jack stands were the norm therefore the kids painted the bottoms!
Old 09-11-2019, 06:32 AM
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It didn't start out for the purpose of recycling. It was started because slobs were raising slobs. People throwing cans and bottles out the window. Leaving them at the park or beach. Etc.
Every time I go to the sandbar I usually come home with a bag of someone else's bottles and cans.
Now if we could only get deposits on cigarette butts.
Old 09-11-2019, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by TheRealMacGyver View Post
Just came back from western NY/ Buffalo for a wedding. I had to remember not to crush my cans and trash them! I really don’t get how this makes sense. At 5 cents a can (some states and Canada are 10 cents) all I can think is the only one that benefits is the state. So, you pay an extra $1.20 per case. Then you bring them and they scan them to be sure you didn’t bring in foreign cans from say, Florida-LOL! So someone has to manage all of that-do they get a cut? I mean how would it be worth their time. And how much, a penny? Then I guess they go to scrap at some point, or do they go back to original company that made them? Just crazy. How many of you just throw them away and say eff it? So glad we don’t have that in Flori-DUH!’

ETA: wasn’t drinking cans at the wedding, they were bottles! Cans were rest of trip.
Pretty clueless.

In most states, you bring the can/bottle back to stores that sell the product. That store usually has scanning machines to check the can/bottle to verify that they sell it, then they crush it or break it. Those materials are recycled, not dumped in landfills. The bottler pays the store to do this, and we as the consumer pay the deposit and get it back - but of course the product price is higher as a result.

In deposit states, roadside trash is greatly reduced. As important, so is waterways trash. As a boater, you should care about that. All the plastic that goes into the ocean ends up in the fish and in your system. That's very bad.

Deposits are not charged on water bottles in most states. In many states, recycling at the curb is now going to landfills because China is no longer buying it. Recycling at the store cannot go to landfills.

Are Floridians this uninformed?
Old 09-11-2019, 06:48 AM
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We have had it for decades here in Michigan.It's just accepted,so you don't notice it at all.Bums will pick cans out of ditches for the 10 cent deposit,so all you see is water bottles and trucker bombs littering the highways.Well there are the car parts and shredded tires from the worst roads in the entire nation,so there is that...and every store has a return area where your shoes stick to the floor and it smells like old ass.
Old 09-11-2019, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by bugnut View Post
As a little kid, I used to go bottle hunting in the early 70ís. We would get 3 cents per. Found a gallon milk bottle once and got 25 cents for it. That was the holy grail.
in nyc, hard working people open the bags, take the stuff they want and close the bags. I think itís a good thing. Not shocked that California is a mess. We would be right behind them if our idiot mayor could run another term.
Old 09-11-2019, 07:01 AM
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Saved all my beer cans for a year. Smashed most of them up a bit, and put in big bags. About filled the F150 level to top of bed. Got $27. Stunk like hell, and full of cockroaches. Now they go straight in the trash, or out the window if I am driving. Can't get caught with empties in the vehicle. Now, if they made it legal to have an open beer the car, it would cut down on litter. Used to worry about it, but all my cop friends do it, and they drink bottles.
Old 09-11-2019, 07:12 AM
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Overall I think the 10 cent deposit is a good thing but I get annoyed that I can only return $25 worth at a time. If I'm ready to do the work of unloading my cans I should be able to return as many as I want.
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Originally Posted by GaryDoug View Post
I wish we had bottle and can deposits in Florida. I am one of the very few responsible people here who recycles them but gets nothing back. No way am I just throwing them in the trash.
I wouldn't go out of my way to save an extra $1 on a case of beer or soda. I'd do like i do now. Throw them in the trash.

When aluminum was about .80 cents a pound about 6-7 years ago. I would go through the neighborhood and get cans out of the recyling bins. I would make $50 or so for an hour worth of work
Old 09-11-2019, 07:24 AM
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It doesn't have to make sense it just has to get you re-elected.
Old 09-11-2019, 07:28 AM
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sounds awesome

in remote alaska we have to PAY (by the pound) to recycle

the only thing free now is aluminum, we used to pay to drop it off too, but when the price went up it became free

they won't accept trash that's not separated
Old 09-11-2019, 07:29 AM
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first saw this on a ski trip. Walked into the local grocery store and there was a line of people waiting to deposit their cans and bottles. On the way out, we asked one of the people what it was and that person broke it down for us. We decided to stash our empties to cash in before we left..........paid for a tank of fuel to go get home
Old 09-11-2019, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by rickboat View Post
Pretty clueless.

In most states, you bring the can/bottle back to stores that sell the product. That store usually has scanning machines to check the can/bottle to verify that they sell it, then they crush it or break it. Those materials are recycled, not dumped in landfills. The bottler pays the store to do this, and we as the consumer pay the deposit and get it back - but of course the product price is higher as a result.

In deposit states, roadside trash is greatly reduced. As important, so is waterways trash. As a boater, you should care about that. All the plastic that goes into the ocean ends up in the fish and in your system. That's very bad.

Deposits are not charged on water bottles in most states. In many states, recycling at the curb is now going to landfills because China is no longer buying it. Recycling at the store cannot go to landfills.

Are Floridians this uninformed?
So you're pissed that Floridian's don't know how other states operate?
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Remember when bud long necks were thicker and returnable? Just put them back into the case, return and get another case. 32 oz coke bottles with the metal twist off lid too. That was a long time ago, wouldn't bother me to still do it.

Seems like with all the micro brews being so "green" and enviro aware they would take their bottles back?

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In Pinellas County, you can go on a free tour of the recycling facility almost anytime. I went and was impressed. It's a complex operation with several stages of sorting.
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Originally Posted by WeeKilt View Post
Recycling is nice, but donít think for a second that because YOU put it in the recycling bin it gets recycled. Many municipalities are combining the trash at the end and just dumping it. Even the Chinese donít want our trash anymore. Too much to comb through to make it worthwhile.
It much more efficient when you are only talking about bottles and cans.
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Originally Posted by GWcpa View Post
Remember when bud long necks were thicker and returnable? Just put them back into the case, return and get another case. 32 oz coke bottles with the metal twist off lid too. That was a long time ago, wouldn't bother me to still do it.

Seems like with all the micro brews being so "green" and enviro aware they would take their bottles back?
If you remember those long neck buds disappeared for a long time because they became weapons in bar fights.

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