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Old 09-10-2019, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Thalasso View Post

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Had them close to 30 years. Never had a problem working on them. Well one time. Drive shaft carrier bearing wasn't a replaceable part IAW the manual. Actually there were some after market parts. Should have done a little more research.
Old 09-10-2019, 07:46 PM
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My vote is master cylinder.
On another note, does this VW have adjustment on each brake shoe? Many did and they were tedious to get adjusted evenly without pulling to one side on braking.
Old 09-11-2019, 02:56 AM
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There is a chance if you go to bleed brakes with an old master cylinder, you can damage the seals depressing the pedal to the floor. I always depress the brake pedal just enough to get fluid moving. If you adjust the shoes all the way out so they touch the drums and the pedal still goes to the floor its a master cylinder/bleed issue. If not, you need to go over the adjustment.
Old 09-11-2019, 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by rsnapper View Post
My vote is master cylinder.
On another note, does this VW have adjustment on each brake shoe? Many did and they were tedious to get adjusted evenly without pulling to one side on braking.
yep, that was an interesting find when I initially did the brakes. LOL I have learned all kinds of "interesting" things on this car. really makes me appreciate my old chevys

anyway will try to dig back into it this weekend. appreciate everyone's thoughts. will let you know.
Old 09-11-2019, 06:07 AM
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Sounds like you can pump the pedal several times and get brake pressure.....still air in the system. Not master cylinder problem, start with bleeding master cylinder, then right rear, left rear, right front then left front....did you mess with push shaft at master cylinder? Don't extend it too far, cause problems....was VW mechanic for too many years
Old 09-11-2019, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by slickster View Post
Sounds like you can pump the pedal several times and get brake pressure.....still air in the system. Not master cylinder problem, start with bleeding master cylinder, then right rear, left rear, right front then left front....did you mess with push shaft at master cylinder? Don't extend it too far, cause problems....was VW mechanic for too many years
did not mess with push shaft. will try to bleed the master cylinder, hadn't done that before. did bleed all 4 wheels in that order.
yep we can get pressure once the pedal is pumped up.
Old 09-11-2019, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by avenger79 View Post
did not mess with push shaft. will try to bleed the master cylinder, hadn't done that before. did bleed all 4 wheels in that order.
yep we can get pressure once the pedal is pumped up.
It's an adjustment issue.You have to pump the pedal to get pressure because you are wasting the pressure just getting the shoes to contact the drum.When you release the pedal,the springs pull the shoes all the way back to the stops and you start the process over.People that don't understand brakes shouldn't be dicking around with them,it a safety issue.

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