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Old 09-01-2019, 09:09 AM
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Lets keep in mind what these guys face daily. I don't condone lawlessness in cops and they should be prosecuted if found guilty of crimes in commission of their duties. They flip side is they put themselves in harms way daily with little regard for their own safety. I am not/ nor would be a cop. As a fireman, we worked closely with cops and rarely had problems. As a law abiding citizen, I've never had a confrontation with any, as I showed respect for the officer even if I didn't quite agree with him on giving me a ticket The following was sent to me by a cop friend.

This 14-minute video is excellent and for all who have done it, the feeling never goes away once you are in the middle of the chase. This video is described by those who lived it and they pull no punches on the reality of the urban battlefield.

The point is obviously well-made about the current state of affairs in Los Angeles inner cities, but also in many cities across the country. Bless those officers who see this day in and day out and we pray for their safety always!
Pay close attention to every word. You will hear what goes through the mind of real policemen every single day on the job. This is the best video I've ever seen telling the public the absolute truth. The fight or flight impulse in this video can only be compared to war. The exception is that law enforcement officers step on to the battlefield every day and train hard to complete their career and come home to normalcy in retirement.
As this starts out you won’t know what’s going on. Keep watching. It will be well narrated. Shooting occurred in the Los Angeles PD Newton Division.

https://cdn-cinemr.minds.com/cinemr_...697152/360.mp4

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Old 09-01-2019, 10:30 AM
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Hell of a situation and incident. Que the MMQB by the normal players.

No way on this Earth would I do that job.

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Great video, thanks for posting. My hats off to them and as a medic firefighter I'm grateful for their assistance on more then one occasion.
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Personally I don’t like or read the ‘Bad cop threads’. There’s good and bad everywhere, some here seem to enjoy the bad.
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The question is really statistical. There are over 600,000 LEO's in the U.S. Take the population of any other profession white or blue collar and you will find common examples of negligence and even criminality. This because they too are human. Why some people use cops as the singular example where the bad behavior of some deserves the condemnation of all is mind boggling.
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Originally Posted by blaineC View Post
The question is really statistical. There are over 600,000 LEO's in the U.S. Take the population of any other profession white or blue collar and you will find common examples of negligence and even criminality. This because they too are human. Why some people use cops as the singular example where the bad behavior of some deserves the condemnation of all is mind boggling.
Well, I think you do have to consider that the police hold a special place of trust in society. The standards they are and should be held to are appropriately much different than the ones applied to your boat mechanic, accountant, building inspector etc.... given that the government imbues them with the power of life and death, freedom or incarceration, etc... over its citizens, when they engage in bad behavior it does deserve special condemnation.
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Well, I think you do have to consider that the police hold a special place of trust in society. The standards they are and should be held to are appropriately much different than the ones applied to your boat mechanic, accountant, building inspector etc.... given that the government imbues them with the power of life and death, freedom or incarceration, etc... over its citizens, when they engage in bad behavior it does deserve special condemnation.
Plenty of jobs that hold powers of life and death or the trust of souls..
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Originally Posted by Cracker View Post
Plenty of jobs that hold powers of life and death or the trust of souls..
You just don't get it...
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Originally Posted by mac7769 View Post
You just don't get it...
You dont get it

Judges, lawyers, cops, doctors, pilots, electricians, vessel captains blah blah blah all hold the power of lives.. all have committed crimes that have hurt or killed people...

I am not making excuses for criminals that wear badges but I an certainly not going to sit here and preach that cops are the only ones....get real..
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Originally Posted by Cracker View Post
You dont get it

Judges, lawyers, cops, doctors, pilots, electricians, vessel captains blah blah blah all hold the power of lives.. all have committed crimes that have hurt or killed people...

I am not making excuses for criminals that wear badges but I an certainly not going to sit here and preach that cops are the only ones....get real..
So you're saying cops never get treated differently in the court of law when compared to your everyday civilian when/if committing the same crimes?
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So you're saying cops never get treated differently in the court of law when compared to your everyday civilian when/if committing the same crimes?
I think ANY professional gets treated differently than people with prior records. Where did you see me say cops never get treated differently, some of the results, I am applaud at also but if you think miscarriages of justice are limited to cops your being very short sided..

Example, Just watched the Costa Concordia disaster

He killed 31 people and he was fully responsible, abandoned ship first, was ordered back aboard and he refused... He got 16 years in jail, 3 years after the event.
There are all kinds of examples....

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Well what you where implying, maybe not saying.

I usually respect and agree with most of your posts, but you are absolutely delusional if you don't see that cops get away scott-free for crimes that any other civilian would do time for. On a regular basis.

Everyone else see's it, why not you? Maybe because of professional bias?
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Originally Posted by TIG-it View Post
Well what you where implying, maybe not saying.

I usually respect and agree with most of your posts, but you are absolutely delusional if you don't see that cops get away scott-free for crimes that any other civilian would do time for. On a regular basis.
You are entitled to your opinion....All that is up to the courts NOT the cop on the beat.. If you think we want to work with criminals or unethical people wearing a badge you are delusional..
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Originally Posted by Cracker View Post
Plenty of jobs that hold powers of life and death or the trust of souls..
And last I checked those are also open to massive public criticism and lawsuits for negligence.

Operating within the accepted range of rules/ethics/laws will not legally burn a professional. It may have them make a decision that is hard or impossible to live with or be "the wrong call" but that is the door put in place when you take a job where a split second error is the difference between life or death.
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He killed 31 peop3e and he was fully responsible, abandoned ship first, was ordered back aboard and tefused... He got 16 years in jail, 3 years after the event.
There are all kinds of examples....
For negligence charges, which those likely would be in our country, that would seem about on par.
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Originally Posted by Cracker View Post
You are entitled to your opinion....All that is up to the courts NOT the cop on the beat.. If you think we want to work with criminals or unethical people wearing a badge you are delusional..
I most definitely know that cops and law enforcement do not enjoy working with the dregs of society by any means. It's just part of the job, unfortunately.

I mean, come on man... It's common knowledge that most cops, judges, DA's et al... will help each other out when need be and are willing to look the other way sometimes. Most civilians don't get that luxury, by a long shot.
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For negligence charges, which those likely would be in our country, that would seem about on par.
EXACTLY MY POINT, negligence is what is posted on here by far for the most part.

Anyway, I have said my piece, I am not getting in argument over things that dont involve me and I cant control..
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Originally Posted by TIG-it View Post
I most definitely know that cops and law enforcement do not enjoy working with the dregs of society by any means. It's just part of the job, unfortunately.

I mean, come on man... It's common knowledge that most cops, judges, DA's et al... will help each other out when need be and are willing to look the other way sometimes. Most civilians don't get that luxury, by a long shot.
REALLY, I once wrote a state representative a boating ticket, so I wouldn't know.. Since I do everything the right way, I dont need anyone looking the other way..

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Great, now a realtor is giving advice on ethics and rules………….
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Originally Posted by DestinBillMe View Post


Well, I think you do have to consider that the police hold a special place of trust in society. The standards they are and should be held to are appropriately much different than the ones applied to your boat mechanic, accountant, building inspector etc.... given that the government imbues them with the power of life and death, freedom or incarceration, etc... over its citizens, when they engage in bad behavior it does deserve special condemnation.
The all-too-common excuse for the vilification of ALL police.

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