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Old 12-15-2019, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TheRealMacGyver View Post
Yeah, it goes in the wall, then down into slab, then to everywhere else. You would cut that line and elbow each through the wall into (if this is your garage wall) the garage. If not, then you might want to get an outdoor model. BTW you will need electric at that location.
We have one that doesn't need any electricity. Two beds, flow meters set based on water hardness. Haven't touched it in 15 years.
Old 12-15-2019, 06:36 AM
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Can you provide model name, sounds like a good solution
Old 12-15-2019, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ericinmich View Post
We have one that doesn't need any electricity. Two beds, flow meters set based on water hardness. Haven't touched it in 15 years.
Whatcha got? Sounds impressive. You still add salt or another system?
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Oh shit, l've got to buy more salt. ....
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I've had a whole house kinetico system since 1997, has worked great. It's an on demand system and uses no electricity. I wouldn't have anything else.
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I've had a whole house kinetico system since 1997, has worked great. It's an on demand system and uses no electricity. I wouldn't have anything else.
There you go, that's what I'm talking about, a system that pays you annually a dividend: not as in paying you any money but more as in money you save for not having to spend for repairs, replacements or on operating costs. Just like my Napoleon gas grill that I bought some 25 years ago that still works, looks and cooks like new.....that grill has saved me easily 3 - 4 times it's original cost and every year that goes by it saves me even more money.
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The Kinetco doesn't use electricity at all, so it would be a good option. The ONLY thing that I might be concerned about is the little screw adjustment on the top of the "timer" mechanism. You could just cover that section with just about anything and I'm sure it would be fine outside. Might even be fine without a cover on that.

My tanks were black though, which could be an issue if you're sitting them in a place subject to bright direct sunlight. At the least, it would make your "cold" water very warm over time. If they were not going to be in the shade, I'd have a white canvas cover made for them. You probably could just paint them white too.
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I've had a whole house kinetico system since 1997, has worked great. It's an on demand system and uses no electricity. I wouldn't have anything else.

I had one for a long time "never broke". I posted earlier about the new one of 5 years. Since that post they have been out twice for repairs. That makes 7 times in 5 years.

My buddy that I talked into buying one owns the domain name Kineticosucks.com. No Joke!

He got to corporate and they replaced his entire system and it has been worked on as well.

Really sucks as they were a great system. I know my well water is not as good as it used to be but that is why I have the citrus acid tank and chlorination tank "sulfur". Just more crap to break I guess.

I know the service people stay very busy as it took them over a week to come out last time.
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Kinetico I think they are great but to expensive for my needs considering there is the fleck 5600 head out there and a clack if you are lucky enough to have a plumber as a brother in law (they aren’t sold to the general public). I opted for the fleck 5600 and have not been disappointed. The salt brine tank is a different matter. I wish these companies would thicken up the plastic on these tanks. I’m thinking of going with a garbage can if the salt located at my brine base turns out to be a leak. It may just be condensation mixed with salt spill.
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Can you provide model name, sounds like a good solution
Kinetco
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Originally Posted by 20biminitwist View Post
I had one for a long time "never broke". I posted earlier about the new one of 5 years. Since that post they have been out twice for repairs. That makes 7 times in 5 years.

My buddy that I talked into buying one owns the domain name Kineticosucks.com. No Joke!

He got to corporate and they replaced his entire system and it has been worked on as well.

Really sucks as they were a great system. I know my well water is not as good as it used to be but that is why I have the citrus acid tank and chlorination tank "sulfur". Just more crap to break I guess.

I know the service people stay very busy as it took them over a week to come out last time.
Weird, 15 years with family if 5 and no issues at all. I'm sure it depends on the water chemistry so maybe mine has less to deal with.
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Originally Posted by ericinmich View Post
Weird, 15 years with family if 5 and no issues at all. I'm sure it depends on the water chemistry so maybe mine has less to deal with.
I think I posted this in one of the "softener" threads, but the first few months of Kinetco ownership were awesome. I did a self-install and didn't buy any extra maintenance package. Then I ran into constant "regeneration" issues. I would keep changing the setting or manually trigger a regen only to have to do it again in a couple months. I was getting pissed off and was getting VERY unhappy with the unit. By the time I was ready to chuck the thing and call and complain it was out of warranty (especially because I did the self-install). I complained to the company telling them of my ordeal and what I had been doing. They were "shocked" and were willing to send someone out (no charge) to check and see if there was anything they could do. They suspected there was dirt or grit in the gearing. The tech disassembled the water metering timer and found one of the small plastic gears had a small burr on it. He replaced that (at no charge) and the system ran FLAWLESSLY for over 10 years while I had that house. That's when I really became a "believer".

They do need a good filtration system ahead of the unit, especially if you're using it on a sandy well. I put one of the sand filters in that was 2x as tall as the conventional ones so it could do a great job and didn't need to be changed very often at all.

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