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Old 08-13-2019, 05:46 PM
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Default Pressed into sales AGAIN!

Well.... not me. My kid. I got out of sales a looooong time ago! Anyway....

So remember Burpee Seeds? Sure you do! Your guys older like me remember selling them to line your 10 year year old pocket. Tonight my 14yo came home with a stack of laminated "card coupons" to sell for the football team. 20 for $20 each. Anyone want some? Yeah, I know.... neither do I.

So... here's the rub. I know I can just put up the $400 and be done with it, and where we live, every other kid within an 8 mile radius is selling the same thing to the neighbors... so what do I do? Any good suggestions?

I really wish the athletics program would just ask for financial help.

On a different note, if you don't think things are changing in this country demographically, think again. Our district in South Asheville barely scraped together a JV football team with 21 kids in a district flush with kids. Couldn't even get enought JV to scrimmage Friday night with a TN team. Thinking they may just fold into the Varsity team (if they can?). Soccer? Loaded up. The Hispanic population here has tripled in the last three years, and so has soccer's popularity.
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I was PTO President once. Our fund raiser was ĎGive us money.í The company pushing the product didnít get a cut, and just about everyone was relieved because they didnít have to guilt trip family and friends.

You should give back back the booklet along with $400.
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Originally Posted by cntryboy22 View Post
I was PTO President once. Our fund raiser was ĎGive us money.í The company pushing the product didnít get a cut, and just about everyone was relieved because they didnít have to guilt trip family and friends.

You should give back back the booklet along with $400.
Yeah, that was pretty much my thought. But I'm Scottish, so... maybe $200. Bastards shoulda asked first.
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We live in a fairly well to do part of a financially average district. The well to do part pumps stupid $ into athletics and academics at the HS level. Wife is a special ed teacher in the most envied elementary school in the district. PTA passes out $ to the teachers. They are moving into a brand new school. PTA sends out an email to all the teachers with $300 or so to outfit their classrooms, and a note to let them know if there are any specific needs that are specific to any given class and they will send additional $. School supply list is published online, along with a link for Amazon, target, and Wal-Mart. Click link, hit pay, crack beer. Itís wonderful.
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I did the PTO/PTA thing for one year with my oldest at Early College. Idiots at every turn - worse than being the HOA Secretary (which by the way I finally after 10 years relinquished this July !). I know not every parent can stroke a check, but there really is a better way to collect money for these things.
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Shit I'd make my son sell every last one. Boys gotta learn.
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Shit I'd make my son sell every last one. Boys gotta learn.
Yeah, I appreciate that sentiment but this is the kid that helps me clean and take care of the lake house every weekend. NEVER bitches about anything I ask him to do, no matter how shitty.... which I guess is why the Coach made him a lineman. Well that and he's a HOSS.

edit - I'm NOT a helicopter parent. I was a Marine. Maybe a Harrier parent, but eff helos. Leaky ass bastards.
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Yeah, I appreciate that sentiment but this is the kid that helps me clean and take care of the lake house every weekend. NEVER bitches about anything I ask him to do, no matter how shitty.... which I guess is why the Coach made him a lineman. Well that and he's a HOSS.

edit - I'm NOT a helicopter parent. I was a Marine. Maybe a Harrier parent, but eff helos. Leaky ass bastards.
Rare that you guys say that! Thanks for your service, I hated fundraisers when I had to do them.
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Rare that you guys say that! Thanks for your service, I hated fundraisers when I had to do them.
Yeah, that statement about "Once a Marine" is overrated. I got paid for my 10 years.

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First, not your kids fault. It is part of the school deal. Public or private doesn't matter. Blame the distributors that come up with these bullshit programs. Everyone knows it's bullshit, but because there's a product or benefit attaches (like those coupon books that give you a 59 cent discount on whatever) it seems more civil. I'd rather donate directly to the x-ball team and be done with it.
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Sales is a brutal occupation that kills your spirit if you are sane and puts stress on you to the max. Run away.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
We live in a fairly well to do part of a financially average district. The well to do part pumps stupid $ into athletics and academics at the HS level. Wife is a special ed teacher in the most envied elementary school in the district. PTA passes out $ to the teachers. They are moving into a brand new school. PTA sends out an email to all the teachers with $300 or so to outfit their classrooms, and a note to let them know if there are any specific needs that are specific to any given class and they will send additional $. School supply list is published online, along with a link for Amazon, target, and Wal-Mart. Click link, hit pay, crack beer. Itís wonderful.
Had to chuckle reading this. Wife started at new mid-decile school across town recently. Got a budget of $140 to equip room for a class of new school starters. Had basic tables, chairs, whiteboards, screens etc, but that was it. Wife spent eay over 100 hours on building and bargain shopping for stuff before starting at the school. Our teenage kids probably spent another 100 between them building more stuff from materials my wife persuaded local businesses to donate. I spent maybe 20 hours helping with the bigger stuff. Our kids have donated some of their childhood toys to the class. All up way over 200 hours of our family time and some $100s of our money in car fuel and materials. She now has a classroom that she is happy to teach in. Kids love it.

Principal wants to know how she did all that with $140. Answer - at $140 these kids weren't going to love coming to this classroom and I would be losing time fighting the lack of resources. This is my wifes first time in a mid to low decile school and the lack of all sorts of resources is an eye opener. You wont help drag kids up in the world by delivering a budget education, but most teachers don't have the resources that we have available to help out.

Kids now all want to be in her fun looking classroom. Little do they yet understand that she takes no prisoners with discipline. A gentley spoken dragon in sheeps clothing 😎
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Why do school programs seek donations when we all pay a lot of money via coercion (taxes)? It's annoying when one reviews the huge amount of local taxes paid to the school district (especially when paid by people without kids or will never have kids) and then kids come begging for money for band/sports/clubs/etc.

Then when people set up fundraisers and ask parents to volunteer for 4,6,8 hours....I'd rather cut a check for $100 or 200 and save my time. And my check is probably more than the fundraiser would make anyway.
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Sales is a brutal occupation that kills your spirit if you are sane and puts stress on you to the max. Run away.
Also teaches you to deal with rejection...imagine teaching a kid that nowadays?

Team sports always included some sort of carwash, yard clean up auction, or other fundraiser that the whole team participated in. One year we had a local car dealer hire the whole team to come clean out the body shop that they were moving.

Only one getting rich on the cookie sales is the cookie maker.
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Also teaches you to deal with rejection...imagine teaching a kid that nowadays?

I feel sorry for your kids. Sounds like you are stressed out already. Please don't pass that along to your kids
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On a different note, if you don't think things are changing in this country demographically, think again. Our district in South Asheville barely scraped together a JV football team with 21 kids in a district flush with kids. Couldn't even get enought JV to scrimmage Friday night with a TN team. Thinking they may just fold into the Varsity team (if they can?). Soccer? Loaded up. The Hispanic population here has tripled in the last three years, and so has soccer's popularity.
Donít dismiss that some parents are finally concerned with all of the brain injuries attributed to football at a young age. In the town I live, they start at 5-6-7yo with full pads and contact. Itís not good. More and more kids leave the sport due to that.
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On a different note, if you don't think things are changing in this country demographically, think again. Our district in South Asheville barely scraped together a JV football team with 21 kids in a district flush with kids. Couldn't even get enought JV to scrimmage Friday night with a TN team. Thinking they may just fold into the Varsity team (if they can?). Soccer? Loaded up. The Hispanic population here has tripled in the last three years, and so has soccer's popularity.
It's no surprise with all of the concern over injury from football, and the huge increase in soccer popularity nationwide due to world cup performance and marketing spend over recent years. I doubt your reported influx of hispanic residents is the reason the football team's popularity is tanking.
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All good examples of why we should privatize the school system...
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At least you can plant the seeds and grow some stuff. Who wants to buy (or sell) $400 worth of scented candles???

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