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Old 07-31-2019, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by yhsesq View Post
yes i would have wanted to see it but only if it was convenient for him and fun for him to do **without compensation**.
i dont think he should get paid for providing those videos. its a hobby and something he does for fun. its not a job. he doesnt need multithousand dollar equipment and weeks worth of professional editing. he needs a cheapo phone, tripod and a bit of editing software and 30 minutes of his time. sure the video would have looked crappy but guess what -- i wouldve watched anyway.
this is a hobby not a job. i post up my videos all the time and i get criticized a lot but guess what ? i dont owe anyone anything and dont expect to get compensated for them. i do it for **fun** just like a drive a boat around without the expectation of catching fish. whatever happened to just spending time on hobbies with no expectation of earning money ? does everything have to be professional work all the time ? i dont think so. youtube should just demonetize everyone then everyone gets an equal shot at producing popular videos.
Troll. Good videos take time and money. It is reasonable to be compensated. You "gimme for free" types are a problem. Ads provide that compensation. Or else they charge you directly. You want that, troll? You will be left with boneheads doing shopping hauls. Hope ZZP is able to get this reversed.
Old 07-31-2019, 02:04 PM
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So my two favorite monetized people got booted this week...and BTW I didn't even know they were "monetized" or what the heck that was until today lol...and I dont sit around and watch youtube all day...ZipZapPower and Banshee Moon...crazy!
Old 07-31-2019, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by yhsesq View Post
how is youtube making any money ? they dont show ads on your videos once demonetized.
he should spend his time and money providing free entertainment. thats what youtube provides - a hobby and a medium for expressing your creativity that allows others to see it. the only reason is started to suck is overhyped "creators" with god complexes making tons of cash doing stupid things. zipzap needs to get over himself and figure he isnt going to be paid for his hobby any more. maybe use a flipphone instead of a multi thousand dollar camera kit and start doing it for fun again.
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Old 07-31-2019, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by yhsesq View Post
i dont expect zipzap to be able to continue the professionally edited videos he has.
what i do expect is he can put up unedited videos of him watching boats. just do what he would do since his hobby is watching boats and drop all that into a unedited video which takes 15 min.
yes he will lose most of his viewers. but guess what ? its a hobby. you dont win or lose at a hobby. even if you play and win all your hobby basketball games you dont "win" economically. no one is going to pay you $10 mil a year for playing your neighbourhood basketball team.
consider one random video from my usual youtube :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOj5NmfoiZo
it took me 15 min to edit by dumping all the streams into one giant video which took 20 hours to render on a Ryzen 3900X. it took me $500 in equipment (yi 4K cam) to shoot in 4K. it took me 30 seconds to hit upload and 2 days for it to upload. total of my time spent ? less than 20 minutes. sure its not great but good enough. if people want to watch they will if they dont they wont. do i care ? no
Man you have totally lost it. You can't be serious about your statements in this thread.
WTF do you care if someone makes money or not on Youtube? Don't like his videos? THEN don't watch them. You have some really f'k'ed up views on this. These videos were universally liked by all, what Youtube/Google did here was wrong. Get a clue.
Old 07-31-2019, 03:37 PM
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My guess is that the Youtube algorithm looks at the raw nature of his videos and it doesn't 'believe' real people (like me) are dumb enough to watch raw unedited video so it 'assumes' we are illegitimate viewers.
Old 07-31-2019, 08:56 PM
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I can't, for the life of me, understand why the one poster is hung up on this "hobby" idea. Some YouTubers upload hobby videos. Others upload professional videos. Why is it so hard to fathom that someone (in this case ZZP) could turn videos into professional presentations that people are willing to pay for? Advertisers pay for eyeballs. Good content and good production values gain eyeballs. TV, newspapers, magazines all do the same thing - deliver eyeballs. The internet, in general, and YouTube, in particular, does the same thing.
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Good news:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIc...8DRUDoh4AaABCQ
Old 08-01-2019, 11:46 AM
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nobody is arguing that he can - its just that youtube is the wrong medium for that. they are geared to unmonetized hobby videos and not professional stuff. vimeo is geared to professional stuff and ZZP should either move or suck it up and live with the fact that he and anyone else can get randomly demonetized or kicked off with no notice. i dont mind youtube adverts on mine since they barely cover the cost of the multi terabytes i store on their platform. at 6-12 hours each some of my videos easily cross the 500GB mark at 4K30fps - and youtube stores it all for free with no complaints. youtube is not a professional platform - i wish people would quit trying to make it into something its never been,
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Old 08-01-2019, 01:12 PM
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Well that was quick, he did give a glimpse of expenses, being at the White Marlin Open for a few days
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Old 08-01-2019, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by yhsesq View Post
nobody is arguing that he can - its just that youtube is the wrong medium for that. they are geared to unmonetized hobby videos and not professional stuff. vimeo is geared to professional stuff and ZZP should either move or suck it up and live with the fact that he and anyone else can get randomly demonetized or kicked off with no notice. i dont mind youtube adverts on mine since they barely cover the cost of the multi terabytes i store on their platform. at 6-12 hours each some of my videos easily cross the 500GB mark at 4K30fps - and youtube stores it all for free with no complaints. youtube is not a professional platform - i wish people would quit trying to make it into something its never been,
Wow. Keep making your videos. Nobody will bother you. But if you attack others with more talent, better skills/ideas, you won't win. And if I owned this site I'd get great pleasure out of charging you $10/mo.
Good day sir!
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Originally Posted by yhsesq View Post
nobody is arguing that he can - its just that youtube is the wrong medium for that. they are geared to unmonetized hobby videos and not professional stuff. vimeo is geared to professional stuff and ZZP should either move or suck it up and live with the fact that he and anyone else can get randomly demonetized or kicked off with no notice. i dont mind youtube adverts on mine since they barely cover the cost of the multi terabytes i store on their platform. at 6-12 hours each some of my videos easily cross the 500GB mark at 4K30fps - and youtube stores it all for free with no complaints. youtube is not a professional platform - i wish people would quit trying to make it into something its never been,
Although I don't think your complaint holds any water, I think it should be with YouTube (if anyone). YouTube obviously thinks they have a professional platform. They are the ones that made it a platform for people to earn money from uploads. I think a space where someone can make millions of dollars has to be considered professional.

Businesses evolve over time. Look at a company most boaters (probably most Americans) are familiar with - 3M. They started out as a company that mined minerals. Today, they sell consumer and professional products like Scotch Tape, duct tape, sandpaper, Post-It Notes, tools, and a multitude of other products. I'm sure, with a little thought, I could come up with a list of many companies that aren't the same as they started. YouTube could easily make that list. They started out as a place where anyone could post a video and have morphed into their current formation of amateur and professional videos, as well as original content created by YouTube.

You may not like it but there it is.
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Originally Posted by yhsesq View Post
yes i would have wanted to see it but only if it was convenient for him and fun for him to do **without compensation**.
i dont think he should get paid for providing those videos. its a hobby and something he does for fun. its not a job. he doesnt need multithousand dollar equipment and weeks worth of professional editing. he needs a cheapo phone, tripod and a bit of editing software and 30 minutes of his time. sure the video would have looked crappy but guess what -- i wouldve watched anyway.
this is a hobby not a job. i post up my videos all the time and i get criticized a lot but guess what ? i dont owe anyone anything and dont expect to get compensated for them. i do it for **fun** just like a drive a boat around without the expectation of catching fish. whatever happened to just spending time on hobbies with no expectation of earning money ? does everything have to be professional work all the time ? i dont think so. youtube should just demonetize everyone then everyone gets an equal shot at producing popular videos.
I feel the same way about movies, they should be made for the joy of telling a story, without the expectation of monetary gains! Why should Steven Spielberg profit from making Star Wars, it should be free entertainment! The actors should do it for the fun of it!!
See how stupid that sounds??
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For anyone who thinks YouTube doesn't promote creating a full featured viewing program which includes a "channel", "video programming" and "ratings" for "advertising profit", think again. You do not understand the goal and platform for YouTube. YouTube is the equivalent of a network like ABC, Fox, NBC. ZipZap is a channel. The guy who creates the work is the producer and the boats are the stars of the show.

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Originally Posted by yhsesq View Post
youtube basically sucks. i got demonetized a while ago. didnt really care. guess zipzap doesnt do videos for the sake of doing videos but only for money so i have no sympathy.
Because making money is a bad thing? I didn't realize there were so many THT socialists.
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Originally Posted by fritz423 View Post
He'll get re-monetized. Just have to play the game.
Brilliant comment. Must be a genius.
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Originally Posted by fritz423 View Post
Brilliant comment. Must be a genius.
whatever
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Looks like he post another video saying the issue got resolved. I would never say someone getting paid to do something shouldn't be making money off anything. What the hell is wrong with some of you guys. If he is doing a side hustle and making some extra money, good for him. I really struggle to see a lot of people point of view.

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