Notices

ZipZapPower Demonetized

Old 07-31-2019, 06:33 AM
  #61  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 411
Likes: 0
Received 130 Likes on 78 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Scotsman View Post
I must be getting old. As much as I love boating/fishing who has the time and interest to watch boats go in and out an inlet. Christ thatís about as interesting as watching paint dry.
sometimes it can be relaxing to watch that kind of thing.
Old 07-31-2019, 07:18 AM
  #62  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Key West
Posts: 12,700
Received 2,910 Likes on 1,354 Posts
Default

juuuust so I'm clear on this, there's still people on this thread that think this has to do with the content being about big expensive boats, and big expensive boat owners are Trump supporters, therefore Youtube demonetized the channel because they're "leftist"?

If so, how come the channels that I am subscribed to that offer content consisting 100% of guns/knives that are ten times the size of ZipZap and that actively discuss their support for the Republican party are still up and running and fully monetized? After years and years of being on Youtube?
Or the channels about expensive cars?
Or the other IDENTICAL channel to ZipZap?

incredible the shit people come up with sometimes...
Old 07-31-2019, 07:22 AM
  #63  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Edgewater, FL
Posts: 355
Received 163 Likes on 89 Posts
Default

I loved ZipZip's videos. As a boat designer it was great to see how different hull designs handle waves. And just plane funny to watch idiot captains lol.
Old 07-31-2019, 07:30 AM
  #64  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Space Coast FL
Posts: 369
Received 387 Likes on 141 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by yhsesq View Post
no you dont succeed or fail at hobbies - you do them to enjoy them, not to win or lose or for some monetary benefit.
is it really that difficult to understand ?
The hobby part of ZZP is him going and watching the boats, or maybe even filming them. That's his hobby, no one is saying that he should get paid to watch boats.. What he does deserve to get paid for is the many hundreds of hours he spends editing and producing the finished product and then loading it onto youtube for YOU to watch for free. That's not his hobby, that's how he found a way to make some extra money doing something he likes and providing a service to us fans.

Also, he probably doesn't end up taking home too much of that pay anyways after you factor in his travel costs, equipment costs, taxes paid on the income and most importantly his time.

What is so messed up about what you are saying is that you think he should not only not make any profit, but also should have to pay out of his own pocket to create content for YOU to watch for free? you are seriously messed up in the head.
Old 07-31-2019, 07:31 AM
  #65  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 504
Likes: 0
Received 164 Likes on 81 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Scotsman View Post
I must be getting old. As much as I love boating/fishing who has the time and interest to watch boats go in and out an inlet. Christ thatís about as interesting as watching paint dry.
I work from home, and actually the lack of ambient noise is often distracting. I frequently run youtube videos in a separate window on the second screen while I work, it's background noise and sometimes I see something interesting. ZipZapPower is a great background video because there is no talking or whining or drama. Most youtube productions have some dumbass talking head trying to be over the top entertaining or dramatic.

Old 07-31-2019, 07:34 AM
  #66  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 504
Likes: 0
Received 164 Likes on 81 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by loudblack97z71 View Post
I loved ZipZip's videos. As a boat designer it was great to see how different hull designs handle waves. And just plane funny to watch idiot captains lol.
I liked watching the hulls also. I was always amazed at how fast the 25-ish foot Formula 233 clones went through the waves and slop.

Old 07-31-2019, 07:36 AM
  #67  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

As a fellow boating Youtuber this is sad to see. Loved watching his videos. YouTube is saying his videos are not original and need some kind of voice overs or educational value to monetize his videos again. It makes you wonder if the other channels that do his same style of video are the cause of this or not. Regardless everything about his videos are advertiser friendly and nothing is copyrighted. Hopefully they re-monetize his channel soon so he can continue to make videos of the same quality.
Old 07-31-2019, 07:52 AM
  #68  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 228
Received 44 Likes on 33 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by yhsesq View Post
no you dont succeed or fail at hobbies - you do them to enjoy them, not to win or lose or for some monetary benefit.
is it really that difficult to understand ?
what kind of hobbies are you into basket weaving? So many hobbies you do are competitive motor sports fishing tournaments golf leagues softball bowling leagues the list is long. I am sure more then half the custom rods builders started out building them as a hobby and it just evolved from there
Old 07-31-2019, 08:00 AM
  #69  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: S Dartmouth, MA
Posts: 1,955
Received 644 Likes on 397 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by porscheguy View Post

The only problem with this is that these big progressive, leftist tech companies are litigious AF and they will sue the shit out of anyone who dares to try and compete against them. Whether they have legit claims or not, theyíll still sue upstarts to force them to bleed money. Most people simply donít have the resources to go head to head against google.
That's different than any other corporation how?
IBM has done the same since inception, Texas Instruments too. Lockheed, Boeing, Airbus, etc have all sued each other. Hell, fast food chains attack small restaurants when they can. Welcome to business. Kill your competition as quickly as possible and control the market.

Your namesake sued Audi over dieselgate. Dumbasses I'm sure claim they didn't know about the software.

Last edited by likwid; 07-31-2019 at 08:05 AM.
Old 07-31-2019, 08:15 AM
  #70  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Denham Springs, Louisiana
Posts: 220
Likes: 0
Received 91 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

For all the Non-Believers, YouTube is a Social Media Platform Capitalist Giant that leverages hobbyist videos. Plain and Simple thats how they make Billions.

GET PAID IF YOU CAN Hobbyist / WannaBe's / Journeymen / SemiProfessional / Aspiring Star / Passionate People / and anybody compelled to record stuff.

YouTube is monetizing YOUR recordings. I personally enjoy videos that are not full of sound Effects, Musical Scores, too much adlib. The ZipZap Power Videos were/was educational and let me review Real World Boating Buffonary, Classic Lines on Boat Designs, Mono Hulls versus Catamarans, and the sound of Waves and birds.

Key YouTube Statistics
  • 2 billion monthly active YouTube users
  • 73% of US adults use YouTube
  • YouTube the most-downloaded iOS app in 2018
  • As of December 2018, YouTube installed on 5 billion Android devices
  • One billion hours of YouTube content viewed per day
  • 500 hours of content uploaded to YouTube every minute
  • 250 million hours of YouTube viewed per day on TV screens
  • YouTube localized to 91 countries, and accessible in 80 different languages
  • “Despacito” most-viewed video on YouTube, with over 6 billion views
  • The first video to 1 million views was a Nike ad featuring footballer Ronaldinho
  • The first video to 1 billion views was Psy’s “Gangnam Style”
  • Fastest video to 1 billion views was Adele’s “Hello” (87.4 days)
  • Most-viewed video over 24 hours is “Boy with Luv” by BTS and Haley (78 million views)
  • T-Series most-subscribed YouTube channel (105 million in July 2019)
  • T-Series also most-viewed YouTube channel (70 billion views in May 2019)
  • ‘Song’ is the most-commonly searched term on YouTube – by a factor of 1.7 (4.2 if we discount number two search term, ‘songs’)
  • JuegaGerman is the most-subscribed YouTube gaming channel (35.1 million)
  • Minecraft is the most-uploaded game to YouTube
  • Top-10 YouTube channels earned $180.5 billion between June 2017 and June 2018
  • Ryan Kaji of RyanToysReview top YouTube earner in 2018, making $22 million
  • 50 YouTube Original series viewed 2.5 billion times over 2018
  • 47% of on-demand music streaming takes place on YouTube
  • YouTube Premium Music counts an estimated 15 million users
  • 50 billion hours of YouTube gaming content viewed over 2018
  • 4,505 gaming streamers per day on average (in January 2019)
  • 8 million users of YouTube Kids, registering 30 billion views
  • 64% of YouTube users report coming across false/untrue content
  • YouTube ads command an attention rate of 62% (television registers 45%)
  • YouTube revenue for 2018 is estimated at between $9.5 billion and $14 billion
  • 2018 US YouTube ad revenue estimated at $3.36-$4.43 billion
  • Estimated YouTube valuation is $140-$160 billion

Last edited by bluflu; 07-31-2019 at 08:21 AM.
Old 07-31-2019, 08:46 AM
  #71  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 889
Likes: 0
Received 176 Likes on 97 Posts
Default

i dont expect zipzap to be able to continue the professionally edited videos he has.
what i do expect is he can put up unedited videos of him watching boats. just do what he would do since his hobby is watching boats and drop all that into a unedited video which takes 15 min.
yes he will lose most of his viewers. but guess what ? its a hobby. you dont win or lose at a hobby. even if you play and win all your hobby basketball games you dont "win" economically. no one is going to pay you $10 mil a year for playing your neighbourhood basketball team.
consider one random video from my usual youtube :
it took me 15 min to edit by dumping all the streams into one giant video which took 20 hours to render on a Ryzen 3900X. it took me $500 in equipment (yi 4K cam) to shoot in 4K. it took me 30 seconds to hit upload and 2 days for it to upload. total of my time spent ? less than 20 minutes. sure its not great but good enough. if people want to watch they will if they dont they wont. do i care ? no
Old 07-31-2019, 09:57 AM
  #72  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Denham Springs, Louisiana
Posts: 220
Likes: 0
Received 91 Likes on 32 Posts
Default

Yhsesq,

You have some great points. You should/could take a moment to look at it from the opposing side as well.

Youtube as a hobby. What really makes a hobby? If you’re spending the money that you are not going to get back and you don’t see the returns. It’s a hobby. Your fans are your families and friends, and maybe some guy interested in the same thing you are. You are not widely known and you don’t exist beyond your families and friends, and an occasional YouTuber. You're just using the platform as a retreat to relax and take a break, then Youtubing is a hobby for you. Your statements are in line with this approach.

Youtube as a Job. It will occupy your time just like office working hours. There will be a return on your investment, from advertisements that pay you well. Fans won’t be just your friends and families but people around the world. You will hence represent yourself professionally like it is a job. This was ZipZapPower for me. I do/did expect him to edit his videos and continue leveraging the same methods to his production success. I and maybe others are just a tad sad that ZipZap won't continue. That's it nothing more or less.



Hey, end it on a good note....White Marlin Open Tournament next week
Old 07-31-2019, 10:03 AM
  #73  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,507
Likes: 0
Received 514 Likes on 303 Posts
Default

So we have:

1.) One poster (maybe more) who think it's the Democrats or Liberals fault in some kind of twisted anti Donald Trump attack (based on thinking most of the boat owners must be Trump voters... did I get that right?).

2.) One poster who thinks it's the manufacturers being upset by prices being listed and then somehow having the videos demonetized.

3.) Now we have a poster who believes ZZP shouldn't get paid because it is only a hobby... there might not be something LESS American than telling someone they shouldn't be able to make money from their hobby!

Insane some of the "tin foil" hat wearing posters on this forum. I just couldn't imagine having any of these mindsets above.
Old 07-31-2019, 10:17 AM
  #74  
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Panama City, FL
Posts: 54
Received 14 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by yhsesq View Post
yes i would have wanted to see it but only if it was convenient for him and fun for him to do **without compensation**.
i dont think he should get paid for providing those videos. its a hobby and something he does for fun. its not a job. he doesnt need multithousand dollar equipment and weeks worth of professional editing. he needs a cheapo phone, tripod and a bit of editing software and 30 minutes of his time. sure the video would have looked crappy but guess what -- i wouldve watched anyway.
this is a hobby not a job. i post up my videos all the time and i get criticized a lot but guess what ? i dont owe anyone anything and dont expect to get compensated for them. i do it for **fun** just like a drive a boat around without the expectation of catching fish. whatever happened to just spending time on hobbies with no expectation of earning money ? does everything have to be professional work all the time ? i dont think so. youtube should just demonetize everyone then everyone gets an equal shot at producing popular videos.
This is insane. It takes time, money and energy to make content that people actually want to watch. Nobody wants to watch a cell phone video of an inlet and guess which pixel is the yellowfin. The fact that his videos are so well produced is why people watch them in the first place.
Old 07-31-2019, 10:22 AM
  #75  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 604
Received 136 Likes on 84 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by IMPLiberty View Post
So we have:

1.) One poster (maybe more) who think it's the Democrats or Liberals fault in some kind of twisted anti Donald Trump attack (based on thinking most of the boat owners must be Trump voters... did I get that right?).

2.) One poster who thinks it's the manufacturers being upset by prices being listed and then somehow having the videos demonetized.

3.) Now we have a poster who believes ZZP shouldn't get paid because it is only a hobby... there might not be something LESS American than telling someone they shouldn't be able to make money from their hobby!

Insane some of the "tin foil" hat wearing posters on this forum. I just couldn't imagine having any of these mindsets above.
Question is why we are even debating this. It's a commercial dispute when one party defrauds other party. It should be settled by courts, that is our normal mechanism of setting commercial disputes.
Why big tech is exempt?
Old 07-31-2019, 10:49 AM
  #76  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Venice, FL
Posts: 903
Received 714 Likes on 375 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Rmadd95 View Post
This is insane. It takes time, money and energy to make content that people actually want to watch. Nobody wants to watch a cell phone video of an inlet and guess which pixel is the yellowfin. The fact that his videos are so well produced is why people watch them in the first place.
Not to mention youtube is getting paid by the videos. Why shouldn't the creator get paid too?
Old 07-31-2019, 11:04 AM
  #77  
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Panama City, FL
Posts: 54
Received 14 Likes on 9 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Windwood View Post
Not to mention youtube is getting paid by the videos. Why shouldn't the creator get paid too?
I know right, imagine if all the profit from movies went to the studio lol. Im sure acting was a "hobby" for the actors at some point too. I suppose charter fisherman shouldn't make money either because fishing is a "hobby". The list of parallels is endless.
Old 07-31-2019, 11:25 AM
  #78  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Texas
Posts: 604
Received 373 Likes on 194 Posts
Default

He'll get re-monetized. Just have to play the game.
Old 07-31-2019, 12:28 PM
  #79  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Reading, PA/Indian River, DE
Posts: 3,158
Received 553 Likes on 284 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by coores14 View Post
juuuust so I'm clear on this, there's still people on this thread that think this has to do with the content being about big expensive boats, and big expensive boat owners are Trump supporters, therefore Youtube demonetized the channel because they're "leftist"?

If so, how come the channels that I am subscribed to that offer content consisting 100% of guns/knives that are ten times the size of ZipZap and that actively discuss their support for the Republican party are still up and running and fully monetized? After years and years of being on Youtube?
Or the channels about expensive cars?
Or the other IDENTICAL channel to ZipZap?

incredible the shit people come up with sometimes...
People who canít open up their mouth, or their web browser without saying everything is libtard this and leftist that donít always have the most common sense. Thereís tons of content that is as conservative as it gets on YouTube thatís still up. The notion that he was demonetized indirectly because of liberals is just ridiculous.

As far as people whining about him making money. Sure, itís a hobby. But he clearly states in the video revenue from the channel has allowed him to go to other locations to film. If his viewers want to see that why should it be on his dime if he can make money from YouTube? I got the jist that he does a lot with video editing and websites in general. So it was clearly another avenue for him to make money doing what he does. Half the content on YouTube that makes the creators probably started as a hobby. Thereís quite a few people who started filming reviews of cars on dealer lots as a hobby. Now they do that full time on YouTube earning good revenue while getting cars directly from manufacturers now to test, invited to product launches with press credentials, etc. The notion that someone shouldnít make money on a hobby is stupid. Hell im sure a lot of people watch some of the fishing shows on tv. These people get paid. Guess what, they werenít born a fishing tv host. Started out as a hobby. I think many have just gotten out of touch with reality when it comes to what YouTube is. This isnít your YouTube from 2006 when you uploaded a video showing people how to replace the blade on their lawn boy mower.


Last edited by jtav2002; 07-31-2019 at 12:34 PM.
Old 07-31-2019, 01:32 PM
  #80  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Sea Isle City, NJ / Lansdale pa
Posts: 491
Received 325 Likes on 180 Posts
Default

This thread is overflowing with crazy..

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.