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Old 06-19-2019, 12:09 PM
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Default Tractor purchase; Kubota v. John Deere

After owning it for more than 20 years, my old John Deere bit the dust (my own fault, but I won't get into that). I'm looking at buying a new "compact" tractor; either a John Deere 3025e, or a Kubota L2501. Both have hydro transmissions, and front end loaders. Both can be fitted with a backhoe if I ever want to go that route. The Kubota is bigger, and appears to be more sturdily built, and costs about $1900.00 more than the John Deere. Anyone have any experience with either of these?
Old 06-19-2019, 12:16 PM
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My limited experience is Kubota > john deer in that class. Bigger machines seem to be more equivalent. My neighbors JD is a fine machine but it’s 35 or 40 hp. His 30 was a POS compared to my L3010, same tractors on paper.
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It's probably a matter of preference. I own Kubota's. Love them. Been very happy. Work them hard. No problems. Probably can't go wrong with either. Seems your JD served you well....
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I've used my son's Kubota B2650 quite a bit. I'm not an equipment expert so I don't know what you would like to know? He's only had it for a year now. It was a bit of a no brainer since the local Deere dealer left years ago so Kubota is the only local shop. Easy to use and pretty strong. I think it's a bit bigger than the one you mentioned. I love it, especially since I didn't pay for it and I get to use it! The back hoe only has 1000 pounds of breaking force so we're talking about buying a mini excavator next. With the midpoint PTO its a really versatile tool in that you can get a bunch of attachments. Then again, all the attachments are pricey unless you go third party vendor (aka cheap Chinese crap). It's a diesel so lots of torque, low fuel burn. I don't think I'm giving you a good review but it's not a fly reel or boat so I'm a little outa my elemental.
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don't hold me to this, but I've been looking for quite a while.

I find the under 40HP John Deere's to have some decent and different creature comforts, but the engines are Yanmar. Which are great engines but not John Deere. Much more plastic on the green tractors. The red and orange tractors to me have more metal.

the orange tractors are all Kabota. May very well not mean a hill of beans to some.

I really don't think you can buy "bad" in orange or green...............
Old 06-19-2019, 12:43 PM
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Thanks for the comments! My john deere 950 served me very well, and when it "gave up the ghost" it was like a lost an old friend. It didn't owe me a thing.

It was rated at a bit higher horsepower than either the Kubota 2501 or the JD 3025, but I'm hoping I won't miss the horsepower (my JD 950 was rated at something like 27 hp, but it was a 1982, and I guess after all those years, it wasn't producing quite the same power as new).

I already have implements (bush hog, tiller, blade, middle buster, etc.), but the front end loader will be new to me (I didn't have one on my 950). I'm excited to have that.

For many of the reasons mentioned, I'm leaning towards the Kubota (I have a john deere mower with all the plastic, and it hasn't held up well; my 950 was all metal, and, though it has some rust on the hood, it's held up well otherwise for 37 years - I bought it used in the early 90's). So the metal on the Kubota is a plus, from my experience. I also like the larger size of the kubota (it's a more "substantial" tractor and front end loader). The plus side of the smaller john deere is it's probably easier to trailer around, which I probably won't do often.
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I have had both in 35- 40 hp range. And was much happier with the Kubota. The Kubota was flawless for 1000 hours of pretty hard use, not one cent spent on non-wear or other than routine maintenance.
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I have an 1982 JD 950 - still running strong. And a 2018 Kubota BX23s TLB (need it for tighter spaces). I looked long and hard at the L2501 but my rows are just a bit too narrow.

When my JD dies, I'll likely be going Kubota for an equivalent replacement. IMO, Kubota has done a better job of ergonomic engineering. Controls are really thoughtfully laid out. Some people will try to steer you away from hydro transmission. Don't listen to them.

You will love a FEL. If you can swing the cost, you'll love a backhoe with a thumb even more. At the time, Kubota had a better deal. 0% financing for 60 months.

If you're anywhere in the PA area, Messick's is great to work with.
https://www.messicks.com/
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The E series is not really the one to compare to the Kubota L Series IMO. I really think the Kubota falls between the E series and the R series. I looked at both about 18 months ago and bought the Kubota but the R series was really nice and I liked it better but the money difference turned me off. I definitely felt like the hydraulics were slightly better on the JD.
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If you have a specific question on JD, let me know..My BIL is a service manager at a JD dealer..
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Originally Posted by wdkerek View Post
don't hold me to this, but I've been looking for quite a while.

I find the under 40HP John Deere's to have some decent and different creature comforts, but the engines are Yanmar. Which are great engines but not John Deere. Much more plastic on the green tractors. The red and orange tractors to me have more metal.

the orange tractors are all Kabota. May very well not mean a hill of beans to some.

I really don't think you can buy "bad" in orange or green...............
Pretty sure my JD 950 has a Yanmar diesel. New compacts also.

I'm getting old so my memory may be a bit foggy.
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I have owned 2 Kubota tractors and an RTV. Back when I was shopping, JD's under 50 HP were outsourced and rebadged from other builders. Some Yanmar, but there was even an Indian manufactured JD in the mix. I don't care for that. A Kubota is a Kubota. They all ran like a Swiss watch.
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After you have had a loader you will realize how much you have been missing. You'll realize the loader is the primary implement and the tractor is just a way to move it around.
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We have 4 -Kubota's and 1- JD at our property, most are the 75-110HP range and from my experience I prefer the Kubota. Just more user friendly and find things work a little easier. From a longevity stand point, I dont know if any is truly better. Proper Maintenance and operating it correctly both units will be very good!
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Originally Posted by stimpson.j.cat View Post
Pretty sure my JD 950 has a Yanmar diesel. New compacts also.

I'm getting old so my memory may be a bit foggy.
Yes, my 950 has a 3 cylinder Yanmar.
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Originally Posted by kevincook View Post
After you have had a loader you will realize how much you have been missing. You'll realize the loader is the primary implement and the tractor is just a way to move it around.
That's what I was told. I have a couple of projects that I was postponing until l had a front end loader to use, so I'm looking forward to getting something to get those done!
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Maybe check in here. Lots of very good info available.
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I was shopping for subcompacts, but I'd imagine my experience translates to the compact tractors, too. I went into it wanting a John Deere, but ended up with a Kubota for two main reasons in particular: 1) Metal hood and fenders 2) The Kubota FEL hydraulic coupler was hands down more user friendly. It utilizes a manifold that all hoses run into, so it's an easy on/off, whereas the JD you had to undo individual hoses. I take my FEL on and off a lot so that was a big thing for me. The Kubota is also orange, which as a Clemson fan carried some weight.

Don't think you can go wrong with either, though.
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I just went through this, I ended up buying a low hour used Kubota L4310. If I were to buy new I would have gone with the Kubota L2501. That tractor is heavy for its HP and at 25 HP it does not require the emissions stuff (Def). HP is not necessarily as important as weight. I visited several dealers on several of the big name brands. My second choice was a LS, good heavy tractors at a good price point. Do some searching on "tractorbynet" that's the THT of tractors. I think the consensus is similar to what we go through on outboards...they are all pretty decent with some exceptions nowadays.
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Both John Deere and Kubota have 0 percent financing for 5 years, or a $500 rebate (no rebate on the 3025, though, as they've got other discounts). But, with financing, you have to pay for insurance and filing fees for a UCC lien, which adds about $1500.00. I don't need the financing, so I'll save the extra money.

The lack of the regenerating particulate filter is part of what attracts me to both the JD 3025 and the Kubota 2501. The regen filter adds about $1000.00 to the price, plus additional complexity, etc., with no corresponding benefit, other than reduced emissions (which I'm not discounting, but I suspect I probably won't put even 100 hrs a year on it, so I won't be dumping much into the air).

I'm also looking at used, but these things don't seem to depreciate much. I remember when I bought my JD 950 that if you found a used small tractor for a reasonable price, you had to jump on it immediately, or someone else would. When I bought the 950 (used), the day I came finalize the purchase, there was a guy at the dealership who wanted it so bad he was ready to pay me $500.00 more than I paid for it.

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