Notices
Like Tree6Likes

Help me build my boat/ toy barn

Old 06-13-2019, 02:13 PM
  #1  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Mobile & Orange Beach
Posts: 367
Default Help me build my boat/ toy barn

Help me build my boat / toy barn.

Time has come to build a boat barn to store all the stuff between me, my dad, and my brother in law. I am thinking about 4,000 SF (40'x100') metal building with one 15' roll up door and one man door. I am thinking not insulated because here on the Gulf it never gets that cold. I am thinking of putting either a french drain in along the rear of the building so I could flush/wash boats inside and have the water drain down to the french drain and then out the building. I want to put a little office in there also. Concrete slab floor, metal building 15' wall height and maybe 18' at the center arch. No AC, water and bathroom will be in it so I can pee, hook up a large ice machine, have spickets for flushing/washing boats.

Right now I need it to house 5 boats and a pair of jet ski's.

Looking for ideas and also things those of you that have built them have learned and would do again or not do again.
KimmerIII is offline  
Old 06-13-2019, 02:53 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Punta Gorda, Fl. USA
Posts: 138
Default

Maybe add a 8-10 door somewhere to get the tractor, lawnmower, truck, etc out without having to use the big door. Had a nice barn at my prior home (not as big as yours), but what a luxury to back in the boat and truck, and just shut the door. Have fun with the planning. Compressor piped in to various spots inside is real handy too. Lots of lights that you can turn on in sections
Appleman is offline  
Old 06-13-2019, 03:21 PM
  #3  
Senior MemberCaptains Club MemberPLEDGER
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: East Central Florida
Posts: 5,899
Default

More doors.

GarageJournal.com
SmittysHaulin likes this.
Onewolf is offline  
Old 06-13-2019, 03:29 PM
  #4  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Palm Beach County
Posts: 9,244
Default

Yea
WPBTH is offline  
Old 06-13-2019, 03:33 PM
  #5  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Tarpon Springs, FL
Posts: 7,413
Default

Agree more doors or getting things in and out will suck.
mikefloyd is offline  
Old 06-13-2019, 03:51 PM
  #6  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location:
Posts: 11,187
Default

Insulate it!!!!!!! It doesn't get that cold but it sure gets HOT. I insulated mine (in Baton Rouge) and adding A/C is on my list after having it a couple of years.

3 threads listed below are the process of me posting and asking questions and advice, setting up electrical, and build-out and setting up for use for the metal building I built in 2017. There's lots of good advice in these threads from fellow THTers and some stuff I learned during the process.

planning and questions
Garage /Shed build thread

electrical
Electrical questions - new shop

Build / setup
My New "Truck" - Progress added!!
Back-in-Black is offline  
Old 06-13-2019, 08:52 PM
  #7  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: ft. myers
Posts: 357
Default


insulate it ..... at least the ceiling
northernoffshore is offline  
Old 06-13-2019, 09:30 PM
  #8  
Admirals Club
THT sponsor
 
williamwallus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: SWFL, Midwest
Posts: 3,240
Default

Another vote for more doors. I have 3 boats a camper and another trailer so 5 things. 1 door and it sucks to try and get something out of the back. Takes forever pulling everything around.
williamwallus is offline  
Old 06-14-2019, 04:51 AM
  #9  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Vero Beach
Posts: 2,870
Default

I built a 40x60x16 with 2 - 14x14 doors at my house about 6 years ago. It's like anything else, in the end it's how much do you want to spend.

At the very least, double bubble insulation. Metal buildings are like easy bake ovens without some sort of insulation barrier.
Think Done Deals is offline  
Old 06-14-2019, 04:55 AM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 671
Default

Id over do it on the wiring. Id have 220v for a welder, just in case.

Lots of overhead LED lights.

Lots of 110v wall plugs. The more the merrier.

Id wire it for WIFI & cable tv.
Bayou Dularge is offline  
Old 06-14-2019, 04:56 AM
  #11  
Senior MemberCaptains Club MemberPLEDGER
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: East Central Florida
Posts: 5,899
Default

Originally Posted by Bayou Dularge View Post
Id over do it on the wiring. Id have 220v for a welder, just in case.

Lots of overhead LED lights.

Lots of 110v wall plugs. The more the merrier.

Id wire it for WIFI & cable tv.
I agree except I would insist on 240v and 120v.
Onewolf is offline  
Old 06-14-2019, 05:06 AM
  #12  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Winterville & MHC, NC
Posts: 4,651
Default

More doors for sure. I would ideally want 4 or 5 on that size building or I would buy a tractor just for moving the stuff around inside. Ideally you won’t want to move 3 boats to get to another. Insulation is a must, even for hot climates. We have both hot and cold here in NC, and I can’t imagine and uninsulated shop. Makes like better. I have a 40x40 with 2 12x14’ doors and and 2 personnel doors. I like access.

Also remember to use cubic feet whenever possible. Like it or not, but your attics and garages will be a lot lighter and your shop will get the brunt of your crap that you dont want to see anymore. Build as big a loft as you can and use that space. I built mine as high as I could that would still allow me to use the pallet forks on my tractor to put stuff up there.
ytmorris is offline  
Old 06-14-2019, 07:18 AM
  #13  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tampa Florida
Posts: 4,941
Default

when it comes to the sheet metal, get galvalum! it does not get near as hot as the regular!
Rolandt03 is offline  
Old 06-14-2019, 07:39 AM
  #14  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 300
Default

More doors, can you do a pull through to make it easier. I always wanted a shop with a nice lean to off one side to have a good place to sit and take a shady break not in the shop. Maybe a large exhaust fan to help get some air moving, it helps our work shop a little in the hot humid summer. We also have skylights which bring in lots of natural light, but they get dirty and need replacement.

Not sure about codes but we have a drain in one of shops but could not get approved in another county for a floor drain. If you like to turn some wrenches maybe a small pit to change oil fluids wouldn't be a bad idea.
clink is offline  
Old 06-14-2019, 08:20 AM
  #15  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tampa Florida
Posts: 4,941
Default

Originally Posted by clink View Post
More doors, can you do a pull through to make it easier. I always wanted a shop with a nice lean to off one side to have a good place to sit and take a shady break not in the shop. Maybe a large exhaust fan to help get some air moving, it helps our work shop a little in the hot humid summer. We also have skylights which bring in lots of natural light, but they get dirty and need replacement.

Not sure about codes but we have a drain in one of shops but could not get approved in another county for a floor drain. If you like to turn some wrenches maybe a small pit to change oil fluids wouldn't be a bad idea.
an oil pit? you do realise this is the year 2019 correct?
Rolandt03 is offline  
Old 06-14-2019, 08:23 AM
  #16  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: SW Florida
Posts: 2,909
Default

Originally Posted by Rolandt03 View Post
an oil pit? you do realise this is the year 2019 correct?
I remember a few years ago seeing a train engine fall into a pit up in Burlington Vt. That was one of the biggest clusters I have ever seen in my life. Had to bring a big crane in to pick it up.
fjmaverick is offline  
Old 06-14-2019, 08:37 AM
  #17  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Tampa Florida
Posts: 4,941
Default

Originally Posted by fjmaverick View Post
I remember a few years ago seeing a train engine fall into a pit up in Burlington Vt. That was one of the biggest clusters I have ever seen in my life. Had to bring a big crane in to pick it up.
semi trucks and trains are the only ones i know that use pits anymore.
Rolandt03 is offline  
Old 06-14-2019, 09:00 AM
  #18  
Senior MemberCaptains Club MemberPLEDGER
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
Posts: 10,433
Default

More doors, and insulation. For big boat slots, single doors are fine. For areas that will house a bunch of smaller stuff use one wide 2 bay door.

I would seriously look into doing the minimum to get at CO, and then building out the office and whatnot after the fact. Keep your taxes and scrutiny lower.
autobaun70 is offline  
Old 06-14-2019, 01:13 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Western WA
Posts: 2,054
Default



Mine is 32x50. 12x14 doors on the 32 side. Rather have them than need them later.

I also had had a loft built into the rear of the shop. I back the aft cockpit right under the loft floor. Stand in the back of the boat and load/unload gear into the loft.

A drain runs perpendicular to the boat, under the motors, and to the outside. I also have a hose bib on the wall near the motors. Then, 30amp outlet under the loft floor for the shorepower connection. No shorepower cord taking up shop floor space or hanging over the rail.
fjmaverick likes this.
wdlfbio is offline  
Old 06-14-2019, 01:15 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: SW Florida
Posts: 2,909
Default

Originally Posted by wdlfbio View Post


Mine is 32x50. 12x14 doors on the 32 side. Rather have them than need them later.

I also had had a loft built into the rear of the shop. I back the aft cockpit right under the loft floor. Stand in the back of the boat and load/unload gear into the loft.

A drain runs perpendicular to the boat, under the motors, and to the outside. I also have a hose bib on the wall near the motors. Then, 30amp outlet under the loft floor for the shorepower connection. No shorepower cord taking up shop floor space or hanging over the rail.
Nice wader and boot collection
fjmaverick is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread