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Old 06-13-2019, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by RussH View Post
There is probably nothing that bugs me more than the inconsiderate pricks that drive up the lane that is closed ahead instead of waiting in line. Not only is it rude but it delays everyone else in line because of the jerk offs then stop traffic by trying to squeeze into the open lane. I don't know why there is always some putz that will let them in ahead of everyone. Today for the first time nobody let 2 vehicles in until a semi left enough room for them to get in. One of them came flying past me going at least 60MPH while the lane I am in is stop and go. He thought he was going to squeeze in at the very front of the line but he ran into a couple of orange barrels to avoid hitting the stopped vehicles. I gave him the 1 fingered salute when I went by along with most everyone else.
You're flat out wrong about this. The lane isn't closed until there is no more lane. Until then using ALL open lanes and "zipper merging" at the end keeps traffic flowing more freely and quickly. Those who think and behave as you do, or worse yet, prevent people from merging, are causing the traffic to slow down. That is what is frustrating. Plenty of studies on this, look them up.
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Old 06-13-2019, 06:50 AM
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There should be a law that bans passing in a merging lane (meaning the lane that is ending). This would also apply to on-ramps. At the point where the lane is identified as a "merging lane" you should not be allowed to pass anyone in the lane you are merging into. If that was passed and enforced, it would eliminate many problems at onramps as well.
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Old 06-13-2019, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by km1125 View Post
There should be a law that bans passing in a merging lane (meaning the lane that is ending). This would also apply to on-ramps. At the point where the lane is identified as a "merging lane" you should not be allowed to pass anyone in the lane you are merging into. If that was passed and enforced, it would eliminate many problems at onramps as well.
Wrong.

Why do you suppose those lanes were built?? The answer is to ease traffic. Learn to merge, others doing so are not doing anything wrong. Rather than create yet another law, that will never be enforced, if your approach is the desired functionality of our highways, those lanes would NOT have been built in the first place.
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Old 06-13-2019, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TheRealMacGyver View Post

With slow trafffic the dummies that get over too early get all PO’d by the smart people doing it right and using the lane that is not backed up. Then the dummies are all butt-hurt at the merge and act all big-man about not letting anyone in!
It's probably the only time in their lives when the dumb snowflakes act aggressive. You've seen the red faced moron in the prius flipping you off for following the law. Lmao as I pass the fools.
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Old 06-13-2019, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by dlos View Post
Wrong.

Why do you suppose those lanes were built?? The answer is to ease traffic. Learn to merge, others doing so are not doing anything wrong. Rather than create yet another law, that will never be enforced, if your approach is the desired functionality of our highways, those lanes would NOT have been built in the first place.
Huh?? Those lanes are built to give you adequate space to accelerate UP TO the speed of traffic and merge gracefully, NOT to race past those already on the highway and cut in at the end abruptly
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Old 06-13-2019, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by km1125 View Post
There should be a law that bans passing in a merging lane (meaning the lane that is ending). This would also apply to on-ramps. At the point where the lane is identified as a "merging lane" you should not be allowed to pass anyone in the lane you are merging into. If that was passed and enforced, it would eliminate many problems at onramps as well.
It's actually the opposite. I live in a beach town that has a merge and there were so many problems on weekends when traffic was backed up from people trying to merge in early that the town put up a sign says something like keep moving and zipper in at lanes end. It's still a shit show on the weekends with people starting to merging in a half mile to mile before the lanes end and many trying to block traffic on the ending lane. I have seen police monitor the zipper and people pulled for doing so. All the locals know the fastest way on the beach is to take the right lane and zipper in last minute. It probably saves 15 minutes getting on the beach because tourist can't follow instructions or understand a zipper.
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Old 06-13-2019, 07:42 AM
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Get get ticket; people laugh and point. Hey look at the DB!. LOL!
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Take up both lanes and block them from going further.
Doubt a cop would write that ticket in a million years. Also people cheer for blocking the self righteous cvnt racing to the front.

Also what charge? Reckless driving/careless driving? The blanket ticket that's crazy easy to get thrown out.
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWesson View Post
Doubt a cop would write that ticket in a million years. Also people cheer for blocking the self righteous cvnt racing to the front.

Also what charge? Reckless driving/careless driving? The blanket ticket that's crazy easy to get thrown out.
I know for a fact they write tickets here because my wife worked public safety and I know all the cops. As I said in my post above they actually look for people blocking lanes.
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:08 AM
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I just run up the empty lane, watch for someone leaving a large gap because they are looking at their phone and slip in in front of them not interrupting the flow.
There's always one and that's all I need.



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Old 06-13-2019, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by km1125 View Post
There should be a law that bans passing in a merging lane (meaning the lane that is ending). This would also apply to on-ramps. At the point where the lane is identified as a "merging lane" you should not be allowed to pass anyone in the lane you are merging into. If that was passed and enforced, it would eliminate many problems at onramps as well.
It doesn't matter how many times you say this, you are still wrong. I'm guessing you're a big problem on the road.
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by bikem View Post
I know for a fact they write tickets here because my wife worked public safety and I know all the cops. As I said in my post above they actually look for people blocking lanes.

Ditto here in VA. They are seriously trying to change the Left lane blockers and merge issues. education, advertising, AND prodigious ticket writing
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Old 06-13-2019, 08:13 AM
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I actually changed my route to work because of this.

There is a 3 lane left turn that gets backed up during morning traffic. Every morning a different DB would drive all they way down the right turn only stop, and then put their blinker on to turn left. I usually honk until they make the right turn and then a U-turn but F them.
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by I Fish 2 View Post
I have a question. If you are supposed to wait until the lane actually ends to merge, why do they start telling you miles in advance what lane is going to end? If your supposed to wait until the last possible second, all those merge signs with an arrow pointing to the lane to be in every 1/4 mile are a waste as well, right?
it is based on the speed of the road.

the mutcd manual on uniform traffic control devices lays it all out. It is on the fhwa website as a free download.
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by kevincook View Post
It doesn't matter how many times you say this, you are still wrong. I'm guessing you're a big problem on the road.
Come on don't you know every problem can be fixed with another law.

BTW whatever way I do it is right and the rest of the world is wrong.
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by dlos View Post
You're flat out wrong about this. The lane isn't closed until there is no more lane. Until then using ALL open lanes and "zipper merging" at the end keeps traffic flowing more freely and quickly. Those who think and behave as you do, or worse yet, prevent people from merging, are causing the traffic to slow down. That is what is frustrating. Plenty of studies on this, look them up.

What if everyone in the lane that is swedging down were to promptly merge over long before all the horn honking/finger waving. Then no need to trade braking at the point where it's one car from swedge lane one car from good guy lane?

Wouldn't it proceed quicker?
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:23 AM
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What if everyone in the lane that is swedging down were to promptly merge over long before all the horn honking/finger waving. Then no need to trade braking at the point where it's one car from swedge lane one car from good guy lane?

Wouldn't it proceed quicker?
Yes, much quicker.

Folks should look at how all the self-driving cars are being programmed. MERGE AT THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY, like it would be in a "normal" world.
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by magua View Post
What if everyone in the lane that is swedging down were to promptly merge over long before all the horn honking/finger waving. Then no need to trade braking at the point where it's one car from swedge lane one car from good guy lane?

Wouldn't it proceed quicker?
If the through lane is slow (construction for example) you would now create a long and building one lane of traffic going slow instead of 2 merging at the zipper. That long slow lane could impact other intersections or interstates as it in theory would be twice as long as using both lanes.
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by km1125 View Post
Yes, much quicker.

Folks should look at how all the self-driving cars are being programmed. MERGE AT THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY, like it would be in a "normal" world.
Nope, I'm wiling to bet the self drivers would merge when the lane ends, and talking to the cars around it to make it happen smoothly.
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Old 06-13-2019, 09:40 AM
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A far larger problem than those using the outside merge lane and passing people parked and waiting, are the people who attempt to merge as soon as they get near the interstate (or whatever road) they are trying to get on. I've seen people attempt to merge while the lines are still solid and they have near 1/2 mile of lane (or two lanes) to travel. By doing so, they stop all other merging traffic behind them.

Why would I follow suit in that stupidity when there are open lanes to use to get me down the road?

There's yet another class - those that travel down the shoulder to bypass stopped cars waiting to merge. These people are wrong and are breaking laws.
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Originally Posted by ericinmich View Post
Nope, I'm wiling to bet the self drivers would merge when the lane ends, and talking to the cars around it to make it happen smoothly.
It'll be 30-50 years before they're "talking to the cars around it". I'm talking about the foreseeable future.
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