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Old 06-09-2019, 07:43 PM
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And the guy didn't make it .
My wife and I were pulling out of our storage with the boat , ready to fish .
Came across a guy standing over someone on the ground , we stopped and the guy said he watched the man fall out , said he was jogging , then just fell .
Probably three to five minutes before we got there .
I checked him out , color was bad and his eyes were cloudy , I started chest compression's and his color got better , but he was not breathing , just a deep gasp every thirty seconds .
Paramedics took him in , but he passed .
I can't believe how depressed I got , and wonder if there was anything else I could've done .
I've never been trained in CPR , but I had to try to do something .
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Old 06-09-2019, 07:59 PM
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You did an excellent job recognizing an issue and addressing it..WELL DONE..Unfortunately in this world there are people that would not try to help and would not have done what you did. Must have been his time..God Bless you for trying.

My first day wearing a badge and a gun at 23, I had to give mouth to mouth and chest compressions to a guy that broke his neck water skiing. He lived about 2 weeks, got pneumonia and died..He was a fireman here locally..

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Old 06-09-2019, 08:02 PM
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You are to be commended. It was his time.
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Old 06-09-2019, 08:07 PM
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I would recommend getting trained on CPR just in case you run into this again.
untrained people trying to do CPR usually does not work well unless there is someone there that has been trained to give guidance.
in this world of sue happy people it could come back to bite you for trying
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Old 06-09-2019, 08:14 PM
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You did everything you could possibly do. We don't do mouth to mouth anymore, AHA have found that compressions from the start saves a lot more lives then 2 breaths interrupted. It used to be ABC (airway, breathing and circulation now its CAB (circulation, airway, breathing)Getting the blood flowing to the heart with compressions is key to early stage survival.
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Old 06-09-2019, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 99yam40 View Post
I would recommend getting trained on CPR just in case you run into this again.
untrained people trying to do CPR usually does not work well unless there is someone there that has been trained to give guidance.
in this world of sue happy people it could come back to bite you for trying

If his state honored it then he would of been protected by the good samaritan law in helping someone out.
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Old 06-09-2019, 08:18 PM
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Praying for you in dealing with this. You did well!
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Old 06-09-2019, 08:23 PM
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you did all you could

you were not aware of what was up until you got there so it was not like you stood around drinking a beer and taking a selfie over a guy laid out on the ground then finally did something

it sounds like you acted as soon as you knew what was up.....again no hesitation or looking for anyone else

it sounds like you had you and someone else and nothing else to work with (like pretty much everyone else)......you gave the compressions like they say to and sounds like you got a response

EMTs arrived and too over......if that does not help then you can be pretty sure you did all you could

brush up on your CPR a little (like we ALL need to) and be confident that next time you will act ASAP and things might be different
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Old 06-09-2019, 09:35 PM
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I watched a 20 year old kid roll his car on the freeway about half a mile in front of me. 45 miles from closest hospital. Had the deep 30 gasps. Others stopped to help.

Didn't make it. Still bothers me.

Life is short.

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Old 06-09-2019, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Smitty 45 View Post
... but he was not breathing , just a deep gasp every thirty seconds .
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Had the deep 30 gasps.
​​​​​​That's a tell-tale sign that someone is checking out. I've never seen anyone survive for long after displaying that amphibian-like gasping every 30 or so seconds. You did all you could. Thank you for stopping to help, a lot of people would not have.
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Old 06-10-2019, 12:03 AM
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The other good technique to learn is Obstructed Airway, infant and adult. Choking is a common occurrence, which will lead to Cardiac Arrest, if not corrected.
You did good in stepping in with CPR. The technique has evolved numerous times, is always an ongoing study and gets better each time. The survival rate has also increased. The first few pumps on the chest, when you feel the sternum cartilage break from the ribs, is creepy and feels weird under your palms.
If there is any opportunity for survival, the trained first responder is key.
God bless.
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Old 06-10-2019, 12:17 AM
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Good for you for trying and doing all you could Smitty. My bro in law went into cardiac arrest at the gym a yr and a half ago. Luckily there was a guy (much like you) nearby that saw the whole thing and recognized the severity of the situation and immediately started chest compressions/cpr. The staff was also there right away to help. The fire dept (1 mile away) was there in about 5 minutes and shocked him once or twice. We later learned he had a 3% survival rate. He was put into an induced coma/cooled down for a week or so and also underwent 2 open heart surgeries while out.

He is back to living his normal life now and recently spoke at the fire dept open house and met his rescuers. It was an emotional event for he and my sis in law. He was very lucky.

Again, good for you Smitty. It was just that guys time. You did what you could. We need more people like you in this world.
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Old 06-10-2019, 12:31 AM
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Don't feel bad, you did what you could, and some times it doesn't matter what you do. I arrived on a scene where a guy literally just went down, and even using an AED right away he still didn't make it .
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You did good Smitty!! With that down time it would have taken a miracle. Keep your head up, you tried to save a mans life when many would have stood around waiting for responders.
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Originally Posted by 99yam40 View Post
I would recommend getting trained on CPR just in case you run into this again.
untrained people trying to do CPR usually does not work well unless there is someone there that has been trained to give guidance.
in this world of sue happy people it could come back to bite you for trying
wow....this is just dumb...20 years in the ER....do CPR weekly....good on the OP for being willing....CPR makes a difference in a small fraction of cases but it's still worth the effort...not that the the American heart assoc will tell you that
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Good for you to get involved and try!!!
It sounds like he had been down too long before you got there.
you are a hero for trying to save his life.
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A huge Pat on the back....man hug and a humble arm slap....good man!!!
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Don't feel bad the survival rate of CPR outside of hospitals low. (Low in hospitals also but better).

Out-of-Hospital Cardiac Arrest

2016 Out-of-Hospital Cardiac Arrest
Incidence: More than 350,000
Bystander CPR (overall): 46.1%
Survivor rate* (overall): 12%

Still good to try, survival rate does goes up with CPR. The biggest advancement is use of an AED. It is taught in all CPR class and very important.
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Old 06-10-2019, 04:12 AM
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wow....this is just dumb...20 years in the ER....do CPR weekly....good on the OP for being willing....CPR makes a difference in a small fraction of cases but it's still worth the effort...not that the the American heart assoc will tell you that
That's one thing the average person doesn't know. Survival is rare and the percentage for full neurologic recovery in people over 60 is in the single digits (last I heard at a class 2%). It really works well on drowning, accidents and electrical shock victims who are otherwise healthy.
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Originally Posted by 99yam40 View Post
I would recommend getting trained on CPR just in case you run into this again.
untrained people trying to do CPR usually does not work well unless there is someone there that has been trained to give guidance.
in this world of sue happy people it could come back to bite you for trying
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If his state honored it then he would of been protected by the good samaritan law in helping someone out.
FL DOES have a Good Samaritan law.
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