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Old 06-04-2019, 04:13 PM
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Default Parkland deputy arrested for (doing nothing).

https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2019/06/04/former-parkland-school-deputy-arrested-on-11-charges-tied-to-shooting-1041191

Now will they arrest anyone from the FBI and other agencies that failed to act on the information they received?
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ng/1343721001/

I do NOT defend this deputies inaction BUT I will tell you I have personally seen FDLE(The investigative agency) NOT hold their own people to ANY standard.

My experience tells me that charges will be dropped. AGAIN, THE DEPUTY ACTED LIKE A POS but the supreme court has ruled time and time again reference duty to act stuff but I am not a lawyer..

Civil remedies would be appropriate but FDLE has NO CREDIBILITY...
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The officer will never be convicted of criminal wrongdoing.
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Tough call. It’s easy to point blame on him. I don’t know what he was thinking but blaming him for children’s death might be a stretch. If he ran in and was shot along with the students we would call him a hero yet the outcome would be the same. We just don’t know how his actions may have changed anything.
i may have acted differently but I was not there.
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If no one went in to help those children I think it's safe to say more young lives would have certainly been needlessly lost. Not sure you can say outcome would not have been different if he had not gone in.
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Had he walked across the walkway where murders we're happening and confronted the POS and possibly killed him...lives would've been saved...instead he acted like a security guard observe hear and report......pathetic
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Grand standing
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How does a deputy live with his or herself after they sat on their ass outside a school while kids are being shot and killed? No matter how you try and justify the inaction, it screams of cowardice and downright a sorry ass human being.

International association of chiefs of police law enforcement code of ethics. 1st paragraph as follows.

AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, my fundamental duty is to serve mankind; to safeguard lives and property, to protect the innocent against deception, the weak against oppression or intimidation, and the peaceful against violence or disorder , and to respect the constitutional rights of all men to liberty, equality and justice.

Pretty simple and cut and dry here. Some shithead shooting up a school full of kids and you are expected to enter and engage the shooter to stop the loss of life and protect the innocent and weak, and attempt to stop the violence and restore order. You knew the job requirements and accepted the pay, no way should you proceed in life unpunished for not engaging the shooter!


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Originally Posted by r.waddill View Post
Grand standing
They gotta make someone the scapegoat.
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I agree this is grandstanding. Sure, the officer was not up to doing the job he was hired to do. But charging him with a crime? That is a BS can of worms. There are other routes to take to make sure that he is never put in that position again.

Does then next LEO in that situation think, "What should I do? I might be charged if I don't do something? I don't want to get charged, I had better go in guns blazing."

Hell no, you either have it in you or you don't. You don't have all that time to think.
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Grandstanding for certain. Hopefully what comes out of this is a demand that younger, active LEO’s who aren’t just waiting out retirement status be assigned SRO duty. I think a rotation of officers, even during s given school year vs a specific assigned officer would also be a positive improvement.
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The whole miserable department of Broward Cowards were infected by the POS Scott Israel
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Per investigation, he was telling arriving officers to stay 500’ away from the building, etc while not going in himself. Another deputy has been fired and is also under investigation
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From everything I've ever been taught, "The police have no legal obligation to protect you", it's their out in case something goes wrong or you do get hurt/killed, the police can't be everywhere, thus this "out" protects them across the board. Just another reason for 2nd amendment rights to be uninfringed. (Yeah, I know it's not a word.)
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Castlerock v Gonzales is a supreme court case that says police do do not have a duty to act. The deputy was a total pussy and I have no idea how he can look in the mirror every morning, but the case will be tossed.
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I have no sympathy for him. Could I have gone in? I dont know. As a non public servant and a parent, I think I could have. What I do know is Ive never accepted resposibility and compensation for a job I couldnt do. How can he accept his pension?
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Originally Posted by Restrain View Post
Per investigation, he was telling arriving officers to stay 500’ away from the building, etc while not going in himself. Another deputy has been fired and is also under investigation
If I remember correctly there was a higher up at Broward County SO on the radio ordering officers to not go in....

Also dont forget two SWAT officers from another jurisdiction (Miramar PD) were close by doing training and responded and went in.. They got both suspended and at least one removed from the SWAT team because higher ups did not have positive control and they DID NOT ASK PERMISSION FIRST...
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The whole miserable department of Broward Cowards were infected by the POS Scott Israel
Calling him a POS is an understatement.
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so finally dindonuffin was arrested?
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Originally Posted by Cracker View Post
If I remember correctly there was a higher up at Broward County SO on the radio ordering officers to not go in....

Also dont forget two SWAT officers from another jurisdiction (Miramar PD) were close by doing training and responded and went in.. They got both suspended and at least one removed from the SWAT team because higher ups did not have positive control and they DID NOT ASK PERMISSION FIRST...
With all respect and thanks sir, look at the second post in this thread and tell me which side you are on.

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