Sin Bin fishing RI

Instead of hijacking the other threads i'll let them run their course.

no need to ad lib, no union this, union that, no need for other pro/anti teacher input... just answer-

what should a teacher make a year where you live?

Where do you live?

What should their pension / retirement be per year?

WaterEnjoyer

185 days a year. Around 7 to 7.5 hours a day. Most of the times when the kids have a half day, so do the teachers. So some days are less than 7-7.5 hours. Late start because of snow or early dismissal, no change in pay.

Sin Bin fishing RI

reading is hard

WaterEnjoyer

blame a teacher.


I was just listing facts. Many don't realize it. Teachers dont' realize that as a non monetary benefit. They complain about working two jobs but many don't have the option of working another job because of the schedule of their first full time job

autobaun70

Pay is tough to put a number on.

Retirement should be 100% private sector based, and not tied to a state pension.

chrisrack

Supply and demand. Lots of ppl want to be a teacher.

That said, I'd think a 23 year old recent college graduate wanting to be a middle school teacher should be paid the median salary for college graduates of that geographic region. In my area, that would be in the upper $30s and quickly moving into the 40's with good performance and longevity.

grouperdawg

goombaby

Another "unseen" benefit, at least here in Alabama, is their healthcare plan. My sister is a second grade teacher and pays around $350-$400/month for family (herself, husband, and two children). The benefits are basically equivalent to a Gold plan on the Obamacare exchange. I'm self-employed and pay just north of $1400/month for my family plan (myself, wife, two kids) (BC/BS of Alabama Silver plan). I want to say I'd be close to $2k/month for the equivalent plan she has through her state plan. That's a $15-20k payraise right there that I think most folks don't think about when the topic of teacher pay comes up.

WaterEnjoyer

My point of view is from NJ which is one of the highest paying states for teachers. I have family that teach. I know a good deal about what they do.

They should not pay for supplies. I'm almost positive they don't in NJ. Also there are many jobs where staff needs to spend extra time at work or from home and do not get compensated.

South Jersey is lower than north jersey as far as pay but around here they start at around 50k and go up to slightly over 100k. With pension and really good benefits that they pay a percentage towards.


Years ago when Christy wanted them to pay some of the health insurance, i had a friend that said she was going to leave and teach in either south or north carolina. I laughed at her and told her to check out what they are getting. She never moved.

OldPete

Trick question.

The answer to the OP's question is met with another question.

Great Teachers or Shitty Teachers? I have now had both. Which one do you want to know about.

Sin Bin fishing RI

no trick question(s).

it's three simple questions.

Barefoot

Yup

Beuford T. Justice

Just get rid of those very political teacher unions and things will quickly settle out in all states.

HookMeUpII

Way too many variables to answer this however I will comment based on my knowledge:

What should a teacher make a year where you live?

Public: Way less than what they are making.
Private: Way more than what they are making.

Where do you live?

NJ (home of overpaid public school teachers)

What should their pension / retirement be per year?

Should be defined contribution, not defined benefit. Employer match. This defined benefit nonsense is why my state is basically broke (among other factors).

My fiance' is a private school teacher for Pre-K through K in a school that charges handsomely for tuition. They provide a high quality education and really help a lot of kids with disabilities. Unfortunately, their pay is crap.

The whole system here is fubar'd. Public schools, which generally provide sub-par education, pay the teachers a small fortune.

r_ventura_23

When ridiculing someone for lack of reading ability, you should use proper grammar and punctuation.

Sin Bin fishing RI

pic of wife?

Still Stoked

r_ventura_23

It is on my profile page.

nibble

Unless you've taught for a year, you have no dog in this hunt. I taught 7 years here in NC at the high school level. I wouldn't go back to it if you offered me $250,00.00 per year. That said, my wife is a teacher, currently getting her edu admin and makes just over $40K per year. She is a 4th grade teacher. She puts in a minimum of 2 hours every single night at home, MINIMUM !!!! She has spent 8 hours on a Saturday and Sunday doing school work. Every teacher at every school she has taught at wants their child in her room. As do the attorneys and every other highly educated person we know outside of school. How much would YOU pay her? How much is your child's education worth to you?

AGAIN, until you spend a year teaching, your opinion is worth nothing.

HeadHunt

I think they should take the best teacher of each subject and video conference it to all the classrooms in the district, county or maybe statewide. One teacher for each subject like Algebra 1. Start this in middle school. Put cameras in each room and a teachers aid could monitor the rooms.

This would work for all the real students. Put the bad seeds somewhere else.

The schools need to get with the times. You can get an MBA online these days.