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Old 06-01-2019, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Eastport205 View Post
The question was passed, not lapped , passed.
​​​​​​Correct, that would be unlapping the 2nd place car.

In the example of a track event with staggered lanes, if you moved ahead of someone in the lane due to it's curve, you would not have passed the person, they are still ahead of you but in their lane.

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Old 06-01-2019, 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Battlewagon View Post
lol. NASCAR is the example. There are many races where a car a lap down passes the second place car and is still a lap or more down.
...or in first place.
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Old 06-01-2019, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by yarcraft91 View Post
Thinking outside the box does not make the kid 100% wrong.
This..100%.

Decades I had the opportunity to talk with a think tank guy, also a state regent. He stated that the reason the US is a leader in innovation is because our educational system encourages (used to) "outside the box" thinking. You don't see the Japanese innovating much..they may perfect it, but they don't invent it. Their education system stresses conformity rather than individuality.
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Old 06-01-2019, 06:02 AM
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I have to ask- what kind of test was this? Math? Logic? Social Studies? Phs. Ed.? Seems like a question designed to make the students think a little, so what's the problem if one of them does better thinking?

The challenge with a kid smart enough to think like this is socializing them to get along well with others who may not be quite so thoughtful...or smart.
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Old 06-01-2019, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by ericinmich View Post
​​​​​​Correct, that would be unlapping the 2nd place car.

In the example of a track event with staggered lanes, if you moved ahead of someone in the lane due to it's curve, you would not have passed the person, they are still ahead of you but in their lane.
if your language of choice is English you might see it differently.
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Old 06-01-2019, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by yarcraft91 View Post
I have to ask- what kind of test was this? Math? Logic? Social Studies? Phs. Ed.? Seems like a question designed to make the students think a little, so what's the problem if one of them does better thinking?

The challenge with a kid smart enough to think like this is socializing them to get along well with others who may not be quite so thoughtful...or smart.
..gotta couple better thinking with better answering, and I’m in
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Old 06-01-2019, 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post


if this is middle school or above, I completely disagree. I had plenty of teachers that used questions worded like this ones as “trick questions” to firmly differentiate the A+ kids from the A kids.

The teacher knows her question left a lot out in there for assumption. Ones kids assumption in line with what the teacher had in her head (but didn’t bother to explain) is less correct than a kid that gives a well thought out response that picks that apart. Ideally that answer would be “there is not enough information to answer because x, y, z reason” vs just a simple “there is not enough info,” but the latter is not in any way wrong.

I do generally agree its not cool to call a teacher stupid, but at the same time it’s not remotely professional to deny a student credit for a correct, well reasoned answer.

A few folks have brought up the workplace comparison. It’s not compatible. In that venue you have the ability to further clarify the situation prior to giving a final response. That dynamic is absent in school.
"Not enough information" is neither an answer, nor is it a meaningful rebuttal of anything. Unless this is a college law course in critical thinking, this is obviously meant to be 2nd place as the correct answer. The rest is just a bunch of argumentative people over thinking a simple question.
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Old 06-01-2019, 06:12 AM
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What grade is your kid in and what were the other questions on the test?

Im so glad not to be a teacher when I read posts like this.
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Old 06-01-2019, 06:13 AM
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Do you feel the teacher was race-baiting?
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Old 06-01-2019, 06:14 AM
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I can’t remember what grade it was, but I do remember the discussion with my son about figuring out what the answer is vs figuring out the answer the teacher is looking for.
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Old 06-01-2019, 06:19 AM
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If your son is smart enough to give the smart ass answer, then he’s smart enough to give the A+ answer, which would be some version of: “most likely I’d be in second place, but I can think of situations where another answer would be correct.”

That attitude will get him much further in life than the “I’m too smart for you” attitude.
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Old 06-01-2019, 06:24 AM
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C) You're both stoopid.
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Old 06-01-2019, 06:25 AM
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So six pages and over 110 responses....Shouldn't you guys be out on or working on your boats?????

Perhaps we could discuss how many angels can fit on the head of a pin???
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Old 06-01-2019, 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ajgraz View Post
If your son is smart enough to give the smart ass answer, then he’s smart enough to give the A+ answer, which would be some version of: “most likely I’d be in second place, but I can think of situations where another answer would be correct.”

That attitude will get him much further in life than the “I’m too smart for you” attitude.
So it's better to roll over and conform than be an individual? Are you a man or a mouse? Squeek up!
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Old 06-01-2019, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post


hypothetical question. Is it possible to be from Boston and come across as anything other than disrespectful? It’s integral in the accent.
Ya know, I was going to refute this but, I gut nothin'.
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Originally Posted by CJS View Post
So six pages and over 110 responses....Shouldn't you guys be out on or working on your boats?????

Perhaps we could discuss how many angels can fit on the head of a pin???
Go away and leave us alone. We’re busy and you’re intruding.
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Originally Posted by KBH View Post
"Not enough information" is neither an answer, nor is it a meaningful rebuttal of anything. Unless this is a college law course in critical thinking, this is obviously meant to be 2nd place as the correct answer. The rest is just a bunch of argumentative people over thinking a simple question.
if the teacher intended for the only acceptable answer to be 2nd place, she should have worded it with sufficient clarity for that to be the only possible answer. Otherwise she should be open to civilly hearing other opinions.
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Old 06-01-2019, 06:47 AM
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I really don’t care what the answer is, even though it seems pretty damn obvious the teacher was right. Teaching your kid to be asshole by following your lead is not a noble cause.

I would guess the teacher would be up for the debate, if your little mini me wasn’t such a dick about it. You just reinforced the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.

Congrats? You showed total disrespect to prove a point which at best could a learning moment, more likely your just wrong. Awesome life lesson for your son.

You’ll never see it this way, which is unfortunate.
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Old 06-01-2019, 06:49 AM
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Kid failed in the sense where his answer simply stated something like "not enough info". That is true, but very incomplete. He should have given a few situations were the answers varied, and stated why.

If multiple choice, that can be hard.
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Old 06-01-2019, 06:52 AM
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Get ready for a long few years if this is the battle you picked already. Every word problem could be nit picked like this so better teach your kid now how to answer them. I have a feeling you are that dad and hopefully he doesn’t become that kid.
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