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Old 05-30-2019, 11:44 AM
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The biggest threat a black snake poses is if they "slime" you. They have the smelliest, nastiest, slimy musk/crap secretion that they unleash if they feel sufficiently threatened. You can wash it off, but the hellish smell remains. The smell is a combination of crap, old piss, and vomit. I'd much rather be bitten than be slimed by one.
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Old 05-30-2019, 11:49 AM
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Well done on not dispatching it. Too many wimps on this thread saying it needs to be dead.
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Old 05-30-2019, 12:03 PM
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The biggest threat a black snake poses is if they "slime" you. They have the smelliest, nastiest, slimy musk/crap secretion that they unleash if they feel sufficiently threatened. You can wash it off, but the hellish smell remains. The smell is a combination of crap, old piss, and vomit. I'd much rather be bitten than be slimed by one.
Yes that is some pretty nasty stuff but you usually have to really scare them to get skunked. I have handled lots of them and really only got it a couple times.
I have been bit a few times too. The worst was from one that was wedged between 2 deck boards for a day or two. I kept thinking he would figure it out but I ended up having to take a deck board loose. The moment he was free, he bit me, like it was my fault. No good deed goes unpunished I guess. I tossed him out in the yard and he was gone.
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Old 05-30-2019, 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by lps View Post
The biggest threat a black snake poses is if they "slime" you. They have the smelliest, nastiest, slimy musk/crap secretion that they unleash if they feel sufficiently threatened. You can wash it off, but the hellish smell remains. The smell is a combination of crap, old piss, and vomit. I'd much rather be bitten than be slimed by one.
They almost always get stinky. Pretty much all on their belly. Seen them really slime up a few times, but mostly just a mild pheromone release. A little orange handcleaner (followed by a shower) gets it right off. If I have the choice I try to wear a leather glove to handle them, and just grab them behind the head.
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Old 05-30-2019, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by lps View Post
The biggest threat a black snake poses is if they "slime" you. They have the smelliest, nastiest, slimy musk/crap secretion that they unleash if they feel sufficiently threatened. You can wash it off, but the hellish smell remains. The smell is a combination of crap, old piss, and vomit. I'd much rather be bitten than be slimed by one.
Well. Their teeth are very sharp and face backwards so they leave a real painful cut which, since they eat rodents, can get infected with the nasty germs that rodents carry around. And of course that rodent passes through that mouth and the germs get onto those teeth. Id say the "skunking" of you is less a danger than that.
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Old 05-30-2019, 01:05 PM
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When we moved into this house 25 years ago I found several copperheads so I put the word out at my gun club that I needed a few black snakes. We almost always find a few in the skeet houses and I got 3 in about 2 weeks. Turned them loose under the house and they found their way into the yard and I haven't seen a copperhead in 15 or so years. One of them must have been a female, we always see several small (<3') ones in the spring and they hang out year round.....
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Old 05-30-2019, 01:21 PM
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Black racers are mean as hell. I never heard of one that went docile after a couple strikes. You sure that was a black racer?
It does look like one. My brother bred pythons for 15 years so I'm fine with all snakes.
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Old 05-30-2019, 01:29 PM
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Black racers are mean as hell. I never heard of one that went docile after a couple strikes. You sure that was a black racer?
It does look like one. My brother bred pythons for 15 years so I'm fine with all snakes.
positive. They have all gone docile after holding for a min or two in my experience. Hold them firmly behind the head, but not tight. And donít move that grip. Road that one 1/4 mile or so on the golf cart to the creek and he was gentle and relaxed. Once released just did his own thing without being agressive at all as he left. Iíve handled at least a few hundred of them over the years.
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I have had them just wrap around my arm and go for a walk without ever showing and fear or aggression, others can get pretty feisty. It probably depends on what happened the minutes before you finally caught them. The calm ones seem to be the ones you grab before they know you are there. If you get in a nose to nose situation where they are coiling and striking, they don't calm down that quickly.
My dog went after one once and he rolled up in a ball with nothing but the tip of his tail out there trying to "rattle". I picked him up like a hockey puck and put him outside. It took a minute or so before he poked his head out and when he saw the coast was clear he booked.
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Originally Posted by schoolsout1 View Post
Iíve tried to chase one down before...never had a chance. My wife saw a black tail rattler in our back yard last year. I, kindly, told her there was no such thing and it was a black racer.
She may have seen a canebrake rattler. Many have black tails
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Solid 4' - disappointed where i found it, right in front of driveway. I tried to grab but it reared back right away and I'm a weenie

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Old 05-30-2019, 06:26 PM
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That's not a black racer, they have white bottom, and do not like being held. They will strike and bite until they can get away. Have had over 30 snakes as pets. Looks like a Black rat snake same bottom as red and yellow rat snakes.
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Originally Posted by Animal1 View Post
That's not a black racer, they have white bottom, and do not like being held. They will strike and bite until they can get away. Have had over 30 snakes as pets. Looks like a Black rat snake same bottom as red and yellow rat snakes.
so a racer is solid while bottom, vs white bottom of head fading to darker as it goes back.

Far from an identification expert, other than knowing what is and isnít poisonous around here.
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Solid 4' - disappointed where i found it, right in front of driveway. I tried to grab but it reared back right away and I'm a weenie
THT 4 footer? Ok, it's your story...
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Old 05-30-2019, 06:50 PM
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Old 05-30-2019, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
They almost always get stinky. Pretty much all on their belly. Seen them really slime up a few times, but mostly just a mild pheromone release. A little orange handcleaner (followed by a shower) gets it right off. If I have the choice I try to wear a leather glove to handle them, and just grab them behind the head.
Yes, you can smell it even when they don't actually slime (like you said, sort of like a pheromone release, warning you that they're a little nervous). I've only been slimed one time, and it was by a garter snake (when I was probably 12 years old). It was almost like it emptied the entire contents of its body onto my arm, and it smell like hell. My youngest son got slimed by a black snake. It definitely makes an impression on you, and isn't something you forget about!

I agree on the ID, as well. Black Rat Snake, not Black Racer. Black rat snakes have a mottled bottom (mix of black and white). Black racers also have a more uniform black on top (you can usually see a black/gray pattern on a black rat snake).
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Old 05-30-2019, 07:17 PM
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We don't have copperheads here, but we have an abundance of canebrake rattlesnakes (timber rattlers). This was a little one I found on the road next to my house. The white stripe on the road gives a good idea of its size (small).



Even the smallest ones have big heads (a 12 inch log timber rattler has a head like a walnut). Every year or two, I end up with a small one in my swimming pool.
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We don't have copperheads here, but we have an abundance of canebrake rattlesnakes (timber rattlers). This was a little one I found on the road next to my house. The white stripe on the road gives a good idea of its size (small).



Even the smallest ones have big heads (a 12 inch log timber rattler has a head like a walnut). Every year or two, I end up with a small one in my swimming pool.
bang bang bang bang bang bang bang (my edc only holds 7 rounds).
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I'm not sure if it's a black racer or black rat snake (I've always just called them black snakes) but I've got a 6 footer that has been coming and going into my attic whenever it wants. It climbs up an oak tree and gets on top of the roof of the porch and then into an attic vent.

I don't kill snakes. My motto is as long as it doesn't mess with me then I won't mess with it. But I really would like to get it out of the house. I guess it's time to cut the tree back some?

It's a true THT 6 footer. I broke out the measuring tape when it was in the driveway last week. And the snake skin I found in the attic a couple weeks ago is currently sitting on the coffee table.


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Old 05-30-2019, 07:28 PM
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If they're in the yard, they get dispensed with. Otherwise, I don't mess with them. I coaxed the one in the photo off the road and into a cutover. They're super shy, and typically disappear as soon as they detect your presence. This one was enjoying the warmth of the road. They're beautiful creatures, but distance and respect are necessary!
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