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Old 05-25-2019, 05:33 AM
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wonder what cars ER orthopedic surgeons drive. seeing so many broken bones.
If I were one I would drive a surburban and to heck with gas cost or being green.
But maybe they all like $$$ porsche's

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Old 05-25-2019, 06:08 AM
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I felt I got too old and it got too dangerous to ride in todays traffic so I stopped riding some ten years ago and the Harley stayed in the garage all that time. Then recently my son who lives in Arizona asked if he could have it so I loaded the bike in a U-haul trailer and towed it to him. Now I just slow troll in my boat.
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Old 05-25-2019, 06:14 AM
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I am close enuf to an interstate where I can hear the japanese crotch rockets screaming at a buck fifty on the mostly empty road at 3am.

If anything goes wrong (and this highway does have more than it's share of potholes and debris), they will be sweeping body parts off of the road.

Have fun boys!!!
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Old 05-25-2019, 06:15 AM
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All motorcycles should have anti lock brakes.I can't tell you how many times I have seen back tires locked up and sliding because the rider panics and just slams the rear brake hard.The front brake should be the primary braking force.The technology is there and some newer bikes have anti lock brakes.
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Old 05-25-2019, 06:18 AM
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Have ridden motorcycles, dune buggies, snowmobiles, go carts, boats, whatever since I was 8. I have had wrecks on all of them, some ok, some not ok. I sold all of he sleds in 04, that was the worst one. I have not been on a street bike since my son was born in 98. I know the thrill of riding, it has no comparison. Guys just try to stay off of them, or if you do ride with as many guys as you can get together, I think that helps a great deal.

The most dangerous thing you will ever do is get on a bike and then get on the roads, its fun but it can kill you in a heartbeat.
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Old 05-25-2019, 06:28 AM
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Man that is terrible to have to witness.

People are just TOOOO distracted while driving now days, Not sure what the fix is and on top of that a motorcyclist can be easy to miss for some reason .

Wife came home one day last summer shook up, her normal route home from work and she just about pulled out in front of a guy on a bike. Really shook her up and Admiral DOES NOT text and drive. Said scary thing was she looked twice in both ways, bike did not have headlight on (not sure if that is a law or not) .

I have ALWAYS wanted HD and love them but that is main reason I have never bought one. In fact had a couple in my office couple years ago and saw his HD on FB for sale . THought he was buying something newer. He told me NO, in a span of about 2 yrs they lost 7 friends on bikes and only 1 was the actual riders fault . Last one was guy sitting at a traffic light near our house and guy in truck just ran over him. Said THEY WERE DONE with them for that reason. He told me hardest thing he ever did but he knew it was time
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Old 05-25-2019, 06:32 AM
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I have rode for years. I believe there are as many poor bikers as there are cage drivers. Ever year in Daytona 4-5 bikers are killed.
But I see them riding the center line, speeding 2x the speed limit, cutting between cars, running stop signs.
I would guess 95% of the riders and car drivers know how to drive. It is the 5% of the others that scares the hell out of me.

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Old 05-25-2019, 06:45 AM
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OK I’ll be that guy.

I’ve been riding motorcycles on the road since 1982. I’ve been down once , my fault I was 20, will leave it at that. I ride sport bikes and have ridden all over the place including coast to coast. Over the years I have experienced countless “close calls” some the other guy’s fault, some my fault.

Riding a motorcycle on the road requires the realization that cars don’t see you and those that do are intentionally trying to KILL YOU. I will disagree and say while currently there is more traffic and distracted drivers, those that do SEE you are much more courteous then drivers were 30 years ago. Back then many/most people’s viewed motorcyclists as all being “punks” or “gang members” and many drivers went out of their way to cut you off etc etc. That doesn’t happen these days, yes someone texting might run into you by accident but chances are if they see you on your motorcycle, they will be courteous.

I also disagree that motorcycle accidents are never the motorcycle’s fault. I see people riding motorcycles all the time who have no idea what there doing. If you ride a motorcycle with the same defensive driving attitude that you would if driving an F350, you are going to get in a motorcycle accident. I see people all the time riding in traffic, lady on the back, feet up on highway pegs, one hand on the bars, head partially turned to the side while talking with passenger riding on busy city/residential streets.

This is absolutely NUTs!

I also see people riding who obviously have no idea of the physics involved in controlling a motorcycle. You can see just by riding technique or lack of that they have no clue whatsoever. Upside to this, their front brake pads never have to be replaced.

Just because you can “shift” without stalling a motorcycle does not mean you know or understand ANYTHING about actually riding a motorcycle correctly.

Stopped at an intersection or stopped waiting to turn, if both feet are on the ground and the bike is in neutral with your hands off the bars, you’re begging to DIE.

Bike in gear, hands on bars, clutch in, eyes scanning mirror and front wheel pointed either along side or between cars in front of you. You see a car/truck coming up behind who looks like “it aint stopping” you QUICKLY pull up along the side or between the cars in front of you and let the cages get rear ended NOT you on your bike!

False alarm, dealing with dirty looks, fingers, and “what the fucks” is a lot better then being the new hood ornament on someones Escalade or a dump truck.

Riding motorcycles is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS! I don’t have all the answers and could easily DIE or become severely injured in a crash today. Motorcycles are also incredible fun and while never “safe” can be made less hazardous with some common sense and some motorcycle specific defensive driving techniques.

I’ve told my wife of over 33 years that I might die riding but I won’t quit riding till I die. I’ve operated some very very expensive and extremely powerful machines in my life, I still maintain nothing is quite like piloting a motorcycle with a full liter or more of high performance engine rolling on two high quality and superbly balanced tires, absolutely LOVE IT.
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Old 05-25-2019, 06:57 AM
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I am mindful of stories like these every time I get on my bike. The amount of distracted drivers out there is mind boggling. Always allow plenty of space between you and the cars, and always have your eyes open in every direction. Stay safe, ride easy!
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Old 05-25-2019, 07:10 AM
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Although Iím without a HD for now, Iíll get another and sad story for sure and all to common. We were driving on I 10 yesterday and 3 bikes blew by us running well over 100, we were running at 90 in the car.

Iíve had bikes on and off for 30 years and learned a long time ago to drive like everyone is out to kill you, Iím still breathing so it works. Once itís in your blood hard to be rid of it, but the second you loose an ounce of respect for what can happen youíre putting yourself in harms way.
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Old 05-25-2019, 07:11 AM
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I was working at a site next to the commercial entrance to a country club on a 4 lane divided road. Well a guy on a HD drove into the left rear of a landscaping trailer that was making the right turn into the CC. I heard the crash and saw the mc and the rider land in the street in front of me. He was conscious but I could see that he had a badly broken right femur. I knelt using my knees to hold his helmet and head stable while I talked to him to try and keep him calm. Itís kind of sad looking into a mans eyes and telling him everything going to be ok, just donít try to move, hang on help is coming. He died at the hospital.
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Old 05-25-2019, 07:33 AM
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I've witnessed two fatal vehicle accidents in my life and both haunt me still today. One was an old man and woman that pulled out directly in front of a tractor trailer. Truck was running 60 plus MPH when it hit them. I was in the car with my father directly behind them at the light when it happened. Back then there were no seat belt laws. Both were thrown out of the car when it broke apart from the impact. My father pulled over and got out to try and help, making me stay in the car. There was nothing that could be done as there were body parts lying in the road.

Second involved a motorcycle. I guess I was 13 or 14 at the time. I was with my mother and we were heading to the mall to get me some clothes since school was about to start back. Pickup truck ran a stoplight and hit the motorcycle broadside. Happened right in front of us. Guy died instantly. After all these years the images are still vivid in my mind!
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Old 05-25-2019, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by muskamoot View Post
All motorcycles should have anti lock brakes.I can't tell you how many times I have seen back tires locked up and sliding because the rider panics and just slams the rear brake hard.The front brake should be the primary braking force.The technology is there and some newer bikes have anti lock brakes.

There are some already.
They have been standard equip on some bikes and optional for others i know since 2014
This year the NTSB recommended they be standard equipment on new bikes. It is required on all bikes in Europe
Next thing down the road will be stability control systems,
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Old 05-25-2019, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by muskamoot View Post
All motorcycles should have anti lock brakes.I can't tell you how many times I have seen back tires locked up and sliding because the rider panics and just slams the rear brake hard.The front brake should be the primary braking force.The technology is there and some newer bikes have anti lock brakes.
I know a couple of those rear brake only morons. These are the same people that won't learn to counter steer. After an incident they'll talk about 'having to lay the bike down'. Idiots.
I know it's a waste of time but I try to coach them. Like talking to a wall.
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Old 05-25-2019, 07:10 PM
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Don’t know if crotch rocket riders still think this, (some probably do) but Do Not ride behind a semi using it to cut the windage.

Texas, many years ago.
Bike rider did this exact thing, semi driver had to hit his brakes because of another idiot cage driver whipped out in front of him way too close.
The backlash sucked this biker up under the back end.

To this day it still makes my stomach queasy just thinking about it.
The bike didn’t even look like a bike afterwards and the rider way nothing more than a grease mark (so to speak) on the interstate.

If I seriously wanted to get back into bikes I’ll head for the drag strip.
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Old 05-25-2019, 09:01 PM
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Please be careful this holiday weekend and everyday.
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Caution, Rant follows: ....Just curious, was the accident victim wearing a helmet? Were you? If not, then why should the rest of us care more for you than you do for yourself? I find that I watch out for the motorcyclists with helmets more than the others. If all were wearing, then good for you all.
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Old 05-25-2019, 09:15 PM
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Iím sorry that you experienced that horrible event. Time heals.

I witnessed 137 people die on flight 182, September 25, 1978 in North Park area of San Diego. I was within. A few dozen feet of burning houses and body parts. I didnít sleep well for a week.

One minute Ute everything is normal and the next all shit letís go. You need to react and not wait for the other guy to do it. You get in there and do your best. Itís up to you.
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Old 05-25-2019, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Riptied View Post
Don’t know if crotch rocket riders still think this, (some probably do) but Do Not ride behind a semi using it to cut the windage.

Texas, many years ago.
Bike rider did this exact thing, semi driver had to hit his brakes because of another idiot cage driver whipped out in front of him way too close.
The backlash sucked this biker up under the back end.

To this day it still makes my stomach queasy just thinking about it.
The bike didn’t even look like a bike afterwards and the rider way nothing more than a grease mark (so to speak) on the interstate.

If I seriously wanted to get back into bikes I’ll head for the drag strip.

Man that brings back memories.
Years ago, I had a ridiculously fun Kawasaki 500 2 stroke. I could get insane mileage on the highway drafting semis and turning the engine off. You'd just get sucked right along. I think now how utterly stupid that was. 3 or 4 of us had to have done that hundreds of times. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
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Old 05-26-2019, 03:39 AM
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Someone told me a long time ago, and I have repeated it many times "Riding a motorcycle is inherently dangerous"
Started riding in 06 at 55 years young. Wanted to ride all my life, love the sound of a screaming engine always have. But oddly enough, even in my wildest years, I knew a motorcycle was like signing my own death warrant, discipline when it comes to tat screaming sound and rush were just too much. Then after learning I couldn't fish every day during the winter in Florida, I got the itch....
Anyway at 55 years old I started, I did all the newbie things, rode everywhere people in Florida ride (dozens of times now). I have to add here, that I met the vast majority of my friends in Florida through motorcycle riding, the social aspect is big. Finally I had to see what all this Sturgis was all about. First stay 10 days, then 3 weeks travelling after the rally, up to two months covering a lot of the West. Fast forward to 2017, I bought my own slice of heaven. We leave the Harleys in SD, I have a Honda Valkyrie for Florida, last winter it got a whopping 1800 miles on it... During the Sturgis Rally, we are very reluctant to ride, way too many people that hardly know how to ride, let alone ride well enough to do challenging roads while show offs are flying around.. I think we have become more attracted to the off road riding (in UTV's)... In either case it is beautiful out here.
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Old 05-26-2019, 05:15 AM
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if u ride not a matter of if ,but when ! been down a couple times and paid the price. dec 2020 I will end riding a scooter in any shape, form ,or fashion ! cell phones have definitely increased the inattentive driver situation !
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