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Old 05-24-2019, 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by yarcraft91 View Post
We must have both missed the day when that was taught in Driver's Ed, because I've never heard of a "rolling roadblock", let alone seen one.
Same here, been driving for 47 years and have never seen this or ever taught this, let alone ever even hearing about it until today.
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Old 05-24-2019, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by mikeloew View Post
Same here, been driving for 47 years and have never seen this or ever taught this, let alone ever even hearing about it until today.
Same here.
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Old 05-24-2019, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Stim View Post
Drove semi's for over 30 years, semi driver was in the wrong!
When the Cop started back across semi should have yielded to an emergency vehicle.
At that speed a semi WILL stop on a dime.
Florida has "Slow Down/Move Over Law" and I see it ignored all the time!
Where the hell is everyone going in such a damned hurry????
What did the trucker have to yield to
The cop came across three lanes of traffic and hit him.
I would bet all states have slow down move over law but how far over. The trucker was already three lanes over
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Old 05-24-2019, 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Jimco View Post
Wow. You run into the back of a lit up police officer's vehicle and think it is his fault. Should be a fun day in court.
Did you even watch the video?
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Old 05-24-2019, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by billinstuart View Post
It IS ignored, but often there's some doofus on the left who won't let you move over.
Option 2, required by law, is to then to slow down SIGNIFICANTLY if you cant move over, that almost never happens either.... I dont do a lot of traffic but the move over law is one of the most ignored
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Old 05-24-2019, 07:33 AM
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I have seen these slowdowns in N.J. on the Garden State Parkway. In the lower part, below exit 30 the GSP is 2 lanes. One Trooper can swerve between the two lanes and it is safe. Iíve seen the slowdowns in 3 or more lanes higher up on the GSP too. In those situations, the NJSP run at least 2 maybe 3 troop cars.,
but this case? Just 1 car for all those lanes? And to see how the officer pulled all the way over out of the regularly traveled lanes leads me to say the trucker is not guilty. However, the case will likely get resolved before trial by some type of plea to a zero point ticket.
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Old 05-24-2019, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Cracker View Post
Option 2, required by law, is to then to slow down SIGNIFICANTLY if you cant move over, that almost never happens either.... I dont do a lot of traffic but the move over law is one of the most ignored
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Then the butthole behind you goes ballistic. Cars which pull over on the paved apron are just as bad. Stopping on ANY highway scares me. The WORST are idiots who miss their exit and do a U-turn in the median.
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Old 05-24-2019, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Diverboy View Post
I would have to see the 30 seconds to minute of video leading up to that clip to make a determination. Could go either way based on that....
Why is it that those 30 seconds to a minute arenít part of the link? If the trucking company released tons of footage and in the interest of the short attention span of typical web viewers only a short clip was posted then the following comment doesnít apply, but...might it be that the trucking company didnít release the earlier footage because doing so wouldnít support the desired narrative? Hmmm. Iím gonna remain in the I-donít-have-enough-info-to-be-the-judge camp on this one.
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Old 05-24-2019, 08:05 AM
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Definitely a court issue, Leo was wrong on this one, he never looked, just moved. My opinion is city will drop the ticket and this goes away. There are enough knuckle heads out there making unsafe maneuvers, don’t need LE adding to fiasco.
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Old 05-24-2019, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by tbaxl View Post
Definitely a court issue, Leo was wrong on this one, he never looked, just moved. My opinion is city will drop the ticket and this goes away. There are enough knuckle heads out there making unsafe maneuvers, donít need LE adding to fiasco.
I agree the LEO was wrong here. But if they drop the ticket, would or could that make the city liable for damages to the truck? I just can't see them doing that.
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Old 05-24-2019, 08:24 AM
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The State is liable for the wreck. They'll end up paying. But that doesn't mean they'll drop the ticket. It's two separate issues under Utah law.
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Old 05-24-2019, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Schmaltz~Herring View Post
Failure to yield to an emergency vehicle, would take a newbie prosecutor 15 minutes on a bad day to secure a conviction.
bull.

in my time of driving fire trucks and occasionally ambulances on EMS assists, our training was pretty clear that even though people had to yield to an emergency vehicle running lights and sirens, we still couldnít just plow into the vehicles that didnít yield.

I think the opposite from you, a newbie defense attorney would have no trouble getting the charges dropped.
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Old 05-24-2019, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by AsurfAholic View Post


what you call stupid, I call understandable. I have never in my life seen a cop trying to slow down traffic in such a manner, and I would have no idea that was what he was trying to do.

Here in NC, maybe it’s different elsewhere, but road construction projects are required to have signs indicating that at specific distances ahead of the project to alert drivers.

If there was a danger or hazard in the road, it seems like there are safer ways to protect drivers from crashing into it than weaving like a madman through 6-8 lanes of traffic.
Spot on. I can't believe half the stuff I'm reading where people are calling the truck driver stupid for not yielding to a cop car that suddenly crossed right in front of him on a highway!!!! Light or sirens or whatever doesn't matter. This cop was a plain dumbass who actually needs better training. What he did was the dumbest move you could EVER do regardless of whatever the frig he was trying to do. Slowing down traffic? You gotta be kidding me!?!?! And the cops are all out trying to ticket us left and right for wreckless driving and this donkey pulls a stunt like this and then tickets the truck driver? Yeah, that sounds just about right.
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Old 05-24-2019, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Hatem View Post
Spot on. I can't believe half the stuff I'm reading where people are calling the truck driver stupid for not yielding to a cop car that suddenly crossed right in front of him on a highway!!!! Light or sirens or whatever doesn't matter. This cop was a plain dumbass who actually needs better training. What he did was the dumbest move you could EVER do regardless of whatever the frig he was trying to do. Slowing down traffic? You gotta be kidding me!?!?! And the cops are all out trying to ticket us left and right for wreckless driving and this donkey pulls a stunt like this and then tickets the truck driver? Yeah, that sounds just about right.
this guyís saving grace will he the fact he had a dash cam running to show the absurdity of what happened.

Imagine all the people not so lucky? Their word VS the police? Not a chance of a fair consideration.

think of the thousands of pooches shot by police who only have to write on their one sided little report that the dog ďacted aggressively.Ē No way for the dog to tell his side of the story so the cops get away with it near 100% of the time. Itís bull that they will investigate themselves and find no wrongdoing.

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Old 05-24-2019, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Twahl View Post
Technically the Trooper is at fault, but being at fault for the wreck and a traffic violation by the trucker are two different things. The trooper no matter what has to ensure he's merging safely, I'll bet he was still watching the red car to make sure it wasn't trying to pass again. However the other vehicles should have still slowed and stayed behind the trooper with his lights and siren going. The trucker is going to lose it. Utah law states you can't pass an emergency vehicle with is lights and sirens on.
That's the violation; the truck should not have gone past the police car since it was obvious what he was trying to do and his lights were on.
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Old 05-24-2019, 09:08 AM
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As juror, I would see a police car pulling off the highway the highway only to then swerve back left across multiple lanes striking the box truck. The move over law requires you to give them wide berth or slow, with 2 lanes between the police car & the box truck, I believe he was ok to pass the police car who appeared to be going to the shoulder. The prior 30-60 seconds may tell a little different story, but based on what we have seen the police car is in the wrong.
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Old 05-24-2019, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Twahl View Post
Technically the Trooper is at fault, but being at fault for the wreck and a traffic violation by the trucker are two different things. The trooper no matter what has to ensure he's merging safely, I'll bet he was still watching the red car to make sure it wasn't trying to pass again. However the other vehicles should have still slowed and stayed behind the trooper with his lights and siren going. The trucker is going to lose it. Utah law states you can't pass an emergency vehicle with is lights and sirens on.
So, should all those folks who passed the trooper and the truck (after the accident) get cited?? His lights and siren were still on, but they were stopped in the middle of the highway.

What about an officer who has pulled someone over on the side of the road? Is it ok to pass as soon as he turns his siren off, or should you wait till his flashing lights turn off too?
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Old 05-24-2019, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by billinstuart View Post
Then the butthole behind you goes ballistic.
Too bad for him, I dont let others manipulate how I drive or what I am required to do... As far as the other comments Bill, yes all dangerous and the morons backing up need their buts kicked for being stupid, missing an exit is not worth dying over.. we agree..
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Old 05-24-2019, 09:45 AM
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Km, that's apples and oranges and you know it. When an Officer has someone STOPPED on the side of the road you have to slow or move over. The trooper was performing a slowdown for an accident further down the road. He never stopped when he pulled in front of the red car, he was still rolling. He was still on the highway, that's not a shoulder. Like I said in an earlier post it's an on ramp. He can't just let the guy pass. Like someone mentioned earlier, the previous 30 seconds wasn't released because I'm sure it won't fit the companies narrative. Regardless, the Trooper will likely be found at fault for the wreck, but the failure to yield is a separate issue and he will not beat that ticket. There will most likely never be a follow up after he's sentenced so we'll never know.
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I would like to see that work on I-4! I have never seen anything like that!
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