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Old 05-23-2019, 09:48 AM
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An American climber collapsed on the summit of Everest while taking photos and died hours later on Wednesday - which was one of the busiest days ever on the mountain as huge lines of climbers formed near the summit.
Dedicated amateur Donald Lynn Cash, 55, from Sandy, Utah, collapsed on top of the 29,029-foot (8,848m) peak on Wednesday as he was taking photographs after a 12-hour push from camp.
His death came as more than 200 climbers were heading towards the summit on both sides of Everest Wednesday as the weather cleared.
Many climbers complained of a traffic jam on the mountain on Sunday, which has become notorious for overcrowding, large numbers of unskilled mountaineers and huge piles of rubbish.
Cash was an experienced mountaineer and recently retired software salesman who was attempting to climb the Seven Summits - the highest peak on each continent.
After his collapse, Sherpas were initially able to perform CPR and managed to get him a short way down.
But just a few hours later Cash died from the effects of the altitude near the Hillary Step - a near-vertical rock face on the southeast ridge.
In the so-called death zone on Everest, above 28,000ft, there is not enough oxygen for a human body to survive for long. Climbers who get stuck above 28,000ft are certain to die.
According to mountaineering reporter Alan Arnette, Cash's body is not recoverable - and his friends said 'his final resting place will probably be exactly where he wanted'.
The guides carried Cash to the Hillary Step, Arnette wrote, amidst huge queues on the fixed ropes that line the route from base camp to the summit.
Cash died on one of the busiest days ever on the mountain as huge queues of climbers formed near the summit.
More than 200 people were taking advantage of clear weather to attempt to summit from both Nepal and China, but teams had to line up for hours to reach the top - risking frostbite and altitude sickness.
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I could never understand the thrill of climbing Everest. From what I've read his is not the only corpse up there, I just don't get it.
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F that.
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I recently read an article where more than 300 people have died and some 200+ are still up there. There are markers along the way that are human remains. "green Boots" if I remember correctly.
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Amazon Amazon

Great book and what can/will go wrong on Everest.
The guides make a lot of money.
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Originally Posted by twofish View Post
https://www.amazon.com/Into-Thin-Air.../dp/0385494785

Great book and what can/will go wrong on Everest.
The guides make a lot of money.
+1 excellent book, read it several years ago. A page-turner for sure.
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Not too many fish above 29,000 feet..... And for that reason, I'm out.
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Just watched a documentary about the trash and dead bodies on Everest. The documentary focused on how the dead bodies are not allowed to be removed without Government Approval. The trash left behind from these groups is staggering and so sad. Sherpas volunteered to clean it and removed thousands of pounds of trash along with several bodies. It's called Death Zone: Cleaning Mount Everest on Amazon Prime.
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Originally Posted by twofish View Post
https://www.amazon.com/Into-Thin-Air.../dp/0385494785

Great book and what can/will go wrong on Everest.
The guides make a lot of money.
What can go wrong:
1) Trash blows into tent during storm
2) WiFi connection is lost so you can't post to FB
3) Step in someone else's poo while taking a leak
4) Graffiti ruins the photo
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Just kidding, don't want to diminish the accomplishment if someone here has summited the mountain. But it is kinda crazy reading about the wifi, frozen poo, traffic, trash and dead bodies in recent years.

Edit: Someone beat me to it.
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Google photos of bodies Mt. Everest. There's a lot of bodies up there. They have nick names now.

Read Into Thin Air. Good book. The movie Everest tried to capture it.

Recently there was one Sherpa who has completed 24 climbs.
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I have always been fascinated with Everest and follow it closely each year especially during summit week when conditions are right. There have been 4 deaths so far this season.

A lot of sherpa and nepal locals are happy with the increased interest in Everest but would also like a minimum level of climbing/mountaineering experience to attempt the climb. I know someone who was caught in the death zone because of a traffic jam and actually ended up helping to carry someone down and saved their life but he did not get to summit even though he was only a few hundred feet away. However he got up early the next morning and summited.

Climbing Everest has always been in the back of my mind.. maybe someday. Would have to complete lots of difficult climbs beforehand..

Edit.. the guy I know should be reaching the summit today for his 5th time..

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Just a matter of time before one of these human traffic jams turn into a major death trap.
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I don’t understand why they don’t tax these people to clean the mountain and people up.
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Fishing is more fun
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Everest is for pussys

what to prove your a climber do K-2
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Originally Posted by WPBTH View Post
I don’t understand why they don’t tax these people to clean the mountain and people up.
They do. Its currently 11k for a permit to climb... That will just get you in the door and then you have all the $$ on top of that. The trash at base camp is an issue that needs to be addressed but the bodies are a whole different story.

Most are in areas that are too risky to remove. There are companies you can pay now for body retrieval but its extremely pricey. You are essentially paying for a team of 3-4 sherpas. It will run you 50k-100k or more depending on risk.
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Originally Posted by WPBTH View Post
I don’t understand why they don’t tax these people to clean the mountain and people up.
They do, here's the fees associated with the climb, it costs about 12k to the government for permits and fees including a rubbish fee. The problem is that there is no good way to get the stuff off the mountain. You can't just drive or even helicopter up there and get it off. They could fine people for leaving stuff up there, that might be an idea but it really is a life or death type of situation and if you've got somebody that has already paid 40-100k to get up there fining them a couple extra thousand is not going to make them bring all of their stuff down.


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Originally Posted by mwgoldman View Post
They do, here's the fees associated with the climb, it costs about 12k to the government for permits and fees including a rubbish fee. The problem is that there is no good way to get the stuff off the mountain. You can't just drive or even helicopter up there and get it off. They could fine people for leaving stuff up there, that might be an idea but it really is a life or death type of situation and if you've got somebody that has already paid 40-100k to get up there fining them a couple extra thousand is not going to make them bring all of their stuff down.


Well it sounds like the nepalese government made 2.4 Million on the day that picture was taken. They can figure out how to get the trash down on their own for all I care.
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Pay good money to go to a place where it is cold and I can't breath.

Where do I sign up?
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Pay good money to go to a place where it is cold and I can't breath.

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I feel the same way about 5Ks and fun runs. Color runs are a whole other level of ridiculous

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