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Old 05-23-2019, 01:48 AM
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Lady has 4 children and her ex got the kids in the divorce, let's assume that it was a financial decision by the judge (ex has a good job, she not so much) Add in that she might be bi-polar or something, but the kids have been in his care for 5 years or better.

We rarely talk to her, but her last conversation was that her ex is suing her to .....give up all parental rights.

Besides visitation, what else would that include? We don't think that she provides any resources to the kids, but what else is there?
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Old 05-23-2019, 02:24 AM
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Ugly situation. Giving up all parental rights allows the Ex's new spouse adopt the kids. If that isn't in the equation and the "Lady" is uninvolved it seems more like a poke in the eye to tell her to stay away from the kids. Depending on what the current agreement is, it would also mean she can't claim them for any taxes, can't pick them up from school, doesn't get any visitation, or any of the other things parents do with their kids.
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Old 05-23-2019, 02:44 AM
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Also he can now likely move the kids wherever he wants. They’ll be safe because the lowlife mom will also have her minivan license revoked
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Removes any legal standing you have as a parent. It is as if you never had a child. Not common at all for a judge to approve that. It is more commonly done voluntarily by deadbeat parents for a payoff.
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Old 05-23-2019, 05:01 AM
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It means that she would have the same legal rights as a stranger when it comes to the kids. No rights to see them or be involved in any decision making when it comes to them. Legal parent to legal stranger.
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Old 05-23-2019, 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Unevensteven View Post
Ugly situation. Giving up all parental rights allows the Ex's new spouse adopt the kids. If that isn't in the equation and the "Lady" is uninvolved it seems more like a poke in the eye to tell her to stay away from the kids. Depending on what the current agreement is, it would also mean she can't claim them for any taxes, can't pick them up from school, doesn't get any visitation, or any of the other things parents do with their kids.
Good points, and adoption by his current wife is a possibility since they've been together for years. Moving out of state might be in the cards, too. Losing visitation is what's making her bankrupt by trying to fight the suit. She loves her daughters, just seems to have a few screws loose upstairs.
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Old 05-23-2019, 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Gullpt View Post
Also he can now likely move the kids wherever he wants. They’ll be safe because the lowlife mom will also have her minivan license revoked
She is no deadbeat; as solid middle-class as they come (her dad a doctor, mom a teacher), but mental health has hurt her, it seems. Are you kidding about driving privileges??
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Old 05-23-2019, 07:33 AM
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You don’t lose custody unless you have proven to be worthless or dangerous.
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Old 05-23-2019, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Reefermadness View Post
You don’t lose custody unless you have proven to be worthless or dangerous.

Certainly the mother will not. At least it is very rare around here for the mother to lose custody unless she is just dangerous, a drug addict or provable bat shit... customary family court judges decisions favor the mom. She must be a real piece of work or just doesn't want the kids.
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my ex was a piece of shit and it took 18 years for Karma to bite her in the ass. youngest son was in 11th grade. still had to threaten to haul her ass into court for her to sign custody to me. She was still their mom just got me out from under paying child support which i paid for years while the boys lived with me. stupid i know but it was best for the boys. courts favor the moms.
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Old 05-23-2019, 01:16 PM
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at least you dont have an ex that makes up stories and reports them to CPS. . There is no legal recourse against someone that files fake cps reports. . .
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I'm not an expert, but might have to do with estate planning and/or assigning a legal guardian of their choosing in the even that something happens to the guy with the kids and his new wife. IE, making sure the kids can't end up with the lady no matter what.
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Old 05-23-2019, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bamaboy473 View Post
Lady has 4 children and her ex got the kids in the divorce, let's assume that it was a financial decision by the judge (ex has a good job, she not so much) Add in that she might be bi-polar or something, but the kids have been in his care for 5 years or better.

We rarely talk to her, but her last conversation was that her ex is suing her to .....give up all parental rights.

Besides visitation, what else would that include? We don't think that she provides any resources to the kids, but what else is there?
The big one left ou from the above posts is that she would no longer have any say in the children’s medical care or treatment.
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Old 05-23-2019, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Jersus View Post


The big one left ou from the above posts is that she would no longer have any say in the children’s medical care or treatment.
Interesting point you make, because it seems that two of the kids are on suicide watch...while at the father's house. She loves her girls and may be batshit (we don't live around Dallas) but seems that he is spending money in order to get her off the planet as far as the kids go. When talking with my wife, she is the model of normal, but we don't know the rest of the story with her or with her ex.
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at least you dont have an ex that makes up stories and reports them to CPS. . There is no legal recourse against someone that files fake cps reports. . .
This is unique to family court. Lying is accepted and actually expected. Lying to the court in any other matter gets you jail time or at least it gets figured into the result. In family court the mothers lies are accepted as her "trying to keep her kid" and not as what it should be.
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For the sake of argument, what are the chances that the mother of these children, two of whom are “on suicide watch at the father’s house,” is not the only parent with issues (mental health or otherwise)?
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Originally Posted by cphilip View Post
This is unique to family court. Lying is accepted and actually expected. Lying to the court in any other matter gets you jail time or at least it gets figured into the result. In family court the mothers lies are accepted as her "trying to keep her kid" and not as what it should be.
exactly. And filing false reports are ok compared to other felonies.
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Old 05-24-2019, 04:56 AM
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Don't have much sympathy for the deadbeat mom here. I hope the guy wins and kudos to him for raising those kids alone. I have zero sympathy for deadbeat parents and how they hurt their own kids.
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Originally Posted by Reefermadness View Post
You don’t lose custody unless you have proven to be worthless or dangerous.
Losing custody and losing legal right are totally different things.

Originally Posted by cphilip View Post
This is unique to family court. Lying is accepted and actually expected. Lying to the court in any other matter gets you jail time or at least it gets figured into the result. In family court the mothers lies are accepted as her "trying to keep her kid" and not as what it should be.
Yup Judges here are over it. If you wind up in court, regardless of circumstance, it is going 50/50 week on week off. Doesn't matter if it is feasible. They are so sick of lying that they are just giving everyone the same result except in the most extreme cases .
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Originally Posted by anthem-00 View Post

exactly. And filing false reports are ok compared to other felonies.
Just imagine how frustrating it is to file a legitimate report of suspected sexual abuse (literally every red flag in the book happening) along with neglect, and have them phone it in without so much as a visit.
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